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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

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    That's easy - her two parents.
    Yes, that's true, but you said it was "pro-choice crowd" that was appalled by her choice. Two people do not make a crowd.

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    This is only a story because the pro-choice crowd is appalled by her choice.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Parents cannot decide to not provide their child with medical care, or an education (or food, clothes, housing, etc) simply because it involves the expenditure of their property.
    Not having a car does not deny her an education.

    As far as medical expenses...fine...whatever costs are directly related to the 16 year old and NOT to the baby? The parents can be held responsible...but all care costs for the baby? Not theirs.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    And what happens if she wrecks it and totals it? Are the parents legally obligated to pay those costs and replace the vehicle?
    Let's all get hysterically irrational, shall we - what happens if she lights a match in her bedroom and burns down the house? Are the parents legally obligated to pay the costs and replace the house?

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Well, first off, it would be preferable if she didn't die if she wrecks the car.

    Anyway, I guess, since it is the car the parents paid for and permitted her to use, that if she wrecks it, the parents are going to have to repair it if they ever want to have it again. Or they can sell it as junk. I don't know.
    I never said anything about her dying. The assumption from my post was that she survives, hence the entire scenario of replacing the vehicle...so I'm really not sure where that statement even came from.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Let's all get hysterically irrational, shall we - what happens if she lights a match in her bedroom and burns down the house? Are the parents legally obligated to pay the costs and replace the house?
    I hardly think the question is irrational. If they're required to provide her with a luxury item, what happens if she renders that item unusable during the course of the injunction? She's 16. Statistically it's very probable she'll wreck the car.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Not having a car does not deny her an education.

    As far as medical expenses...fine...whatever costs are directly related to the 16 year old and NOT to the baby? The parents can be held responsible...but all care costs for the baby? Not theirs.
    If the school is too far to walk, and her parents won't provide transportation, then a car is necessary

    As far as medical costs, from the article
    The teen's parents will be liable for half of the hospital bill when she gives birth, unless she is married to the baby's 16-year-old father.
    It says nothing about "all care costs for the baby"
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I never said anything about her dying. The assumption from my post was that she survives, hence the entire scenario of replacing the vehicle...so I'm really not sure where that statement even came from.
    It's just logical. If she wrecks the car, she may be hurt. If she totals it, she may end up dying. The car doesn't get wrecked by miracle, it happens because of collision. Impact. Boom boom stuff.

    Anyway. If the car goes to car heaven, I assume the parents get the insurance money for it... if they have insurance and if the girl isn't to blame for wrecking it. And then... who knows. Its really too much to think about on little info. The bottom line is, she doesn't own the car.

    But we are getting offtopic. From baby in her belly to wrecking cars.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The Court sure gave a reason for her and the father to not marry at least until after the birth.

    I don't real problem with the decision other than don't agree about the car. Then all teens should be able to sue of parents try to take away car-rights.

    Welcome to parenting.
    Why should the girl be penalized for exercising her constitutional rights to free choice? I can guarantee if the choice was to abort and the parents didn't want her to, the pro-choice crowd would be groaning and moaning if her parents punished her by taking away her access to a car she had before the pregnancy.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If the school is too far to walk, and her parents won't provide transportation, then a car is necessary

    As far as medical costs, from the article


    It says nothing about "all care costs for the baby"
    1. You are not legally obligated to provide your child with a car to get to and from school.
    2. If it's too far to walk she can likely take the bus, get a ride w/friends (or the baby daddy), etc.

    As for your other statement. "Half of the hospital bill when she gives birth" means the totality of the bill, split in two. The MAJORITY of that bill will be costs associated with the baby's care post-birth, NOT the mother's....hence my statement.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I hardly think the question is irrational. If they're required to provide her with a luxury item, what happens if she renders that item unusable during the course of the injunction? She's 16. Statistically it's very probable she'll wreck the car.
    A car is not a luxury item when used by a pregnant person who can't hike to a distant school.
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