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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Of course, since you don't agree with me, I'm plainly wrong - why don't you educate me about parental responsibility for the health and safety of their children.
    I said you were wrong that pro-choicers don't support her. You can look for yourself on the other thread on this topic. It's the anti-choicers who are really going after her, actually.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    As part of the order, the girl will be able to use her car to go to school, work and medical appointments. Her parents had taken away the use of the car as part of their effort to force an abortion, court papers stated.

    The teen's parents will be liable for half of the hospital bill when she gives birth, unless she is married to the baby's 16-year-old father.
    Sounds fair to me.

    As parents, they have an obligation to care for their minor child, so they should provide transportation to school, a job (the parents shouldnt be allowed to not support the child's child *and* prevent her from doing so), and medical appt (doing so would constitute neglect)

    And since the parents are responsible for the child health care, they should have to pay for the hospital bill, but I'm going to guess that the other half is either the responsibility of the girl, or the family of the boy that impregnated her.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Its a minor part in regards to what? She having a child? Yes.

    But its not a minor part in regards to property rights isn't it? The car isn't the girls' property. It's the parents. So is most of the things she owns, unless she paid for them.
    And what happens if she wrecks it and totals it? Are the parents legally obligated to pay those costs and replace the vehicle?
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I'm pro choice and I fully support her being able to make her own decision and believe that her parents are in the wrong. Can you find me a single pro-choice person that has argued that the parents should be able to force her to get an abortion or that she shouldn't have the right to choose?
    That's easy - her two parents.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    The Court sure gave a reason for her and the father to not marry at least until after the birth.

    I don't real problem with the decision other than don't agree about the car. Then all teens should be able to sue of parents try to take away car-rights.

    Welcome to parenting.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Of course, since you don't agree with me, I'm plainly wrong - why don't you educate me about parental responsibility for the health and safety of their children.
    No, it's because you offer absolutely nothing to support your obnoxious claim
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The parents shouldn't be made to allow use of the car OR be forced to cover half of the medical expenses.
    It's their child, therefor her medical expenses are their cost. I agree with you on the car, but this is no different than you paying for any bills for anything else. You pay for medical bills on medically necessary procedures until that kid is 18 or is not yours anymore. The only way they shouldn't have to pay the bill is if 16 is the age of emancipation in their state. Now if they make the kid work off the money or pay them back, whatever, I don't care how they handle it, but it should be their responsibility.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    It isn't the court's legal right to determine whether or not a child may be "punished" or what constitutes "punishment" unless and until such actions constitute clearly defined abuse.

    Taking her car, which is likely not in her name and thus not her property, is absolutely within the parents' rights.
    If you believe you're right, I suggest you assist the parents in an appeal of the court's ruling.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    It isn't the court's legal right to determine whether or not a child may be "punished" or what constitutes "punishment" unless and until such actions constitute clearly defined abuse.

    Taking her car, which is likely not in her name and thus not her property, is absolutely within the parents' rights.
    Parents cannot decide to not provide their child with medical care, or an education (or food, clothes, housing, etc) simply because it involves the expenditure of their property.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    And what happens if she wrecks it and totals it? Are the parents legally obligated to pay those costs and replace the vehicle?
    Well, first off, it would be preferable if she didn't die if she wrecks the car.

    Anyway, I guess, since it is the car the parents paid for and permitted her to use, that if she wrecks it, the parents are going to have to repair it if they ever want to have it again. Or they can sell it as junk. I don't know.

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