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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    No, I did no such thing - firstly, I simply indicated my view of why this particular situation was a story - since I'm pro-choice, it's hard for me to accept that I was insulting myself, but you seem to think I attacked everyone -
    1. You didn't sate your point of view. You insulted pro-choice people by saying we were appalled that the girl would choose to keep her baby. That is an insult. If I were to say that you love it when kids are murdered, that's not me simply stating an opinion, that's an insult, and your comment was an insult. That you delude yourself otherwise doesn't negate this fact.

    2. I didn't say you insulted yourself or everyone. I said you insulted everyone on the other side of the isle, IE: pro-choice people. Once again you misrepresent what was posted. No surprise.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    What a surprise we'd get the benefit of your idiocy today. What ignorant or hateful statement did I make attacking liberals? - I'll spell it correctly, since I'm an adult and I'm not in your play group. You do know, presumably, that the pro-choice/anti-abortion issue is not a left/right issue?
    I'm not surprised to see you trying to deny your own words, or the way the right has chosen to champion the absurd pro-life agenda
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I'm not surprised to see you trying to deny your own words, or the way the right has chosen to champion the absurd pro-life agenda
    Ah yes, a non-answer from our resident sage - now, if I was you or roughdraft, I'd be in high dungeon claiming you insulted all conservatives as being champions of the "absurd pro-life agenda".

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Ah yes, a non-answer from our resident sage - now, if I was you or roughdraft, I'd be in high dungeon claiming you insulted all conservatives as being champions of the "absurd pro-life agenda".
    The fact remains that you made a statement so ignorant and hateful that even you refuse to defend it. Now, you're trying to forget that you even said it.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    RvW clearly states that under the constitution, a fetus is not a person, therefore the govt has no power to ban abortion
    Negative. RvW explicitly states that no such consideration was made in the ruling.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Negative. RvW explicitly states that no such consideration was made in the ruling.
    From RvW

    Under the constitution, a fetus is not a person

    the word "person," as used in the Fourteenth Amendment, does not include the unborn
    In short, the unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons
    The govt has no power to ban abortion
    1. A state criminal abortion statute of the current Texas type, that excepts from criminality only a life-saving procedure on behalf of the mother, without regard to pregnancy stage and without recognition of the other interests involved, is violative of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

    (a) For the stage prior to approximately the end of the first trimester, the abortion decision and its effectuation must be left to the medical judgment of the pregnant woman's attending physician.

    (b) For the stage subsequent to approximately the end of the first trimester, the State, in promoting its interest in the health of the mother, may, if it chooses, regulate the abortion procedure in ways that are reasonably related to maternal health.

    (c) For the stage subsequent to viability, the State in promoting its interest in the potentiality of human life 165*165 may, if it chooses, regulate, and even proscribe, abortion except where it is necessary, in appropriate medical judgment, for the preservation of the life or health of the mother.
    Please quote where RvW "explicitely states" what you claim it states
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The fact remains that you made a statement so ignorant and hateful that even you refuse to defend it. Now, you're trying to forget that you even said it.
    Nothing you've said here is remotely accurate - just because something happens to float out of your ass doesn't make it a gem of wisdom. I've neither forgotten what I initially said and I've no need to defend it - it's my view, whether you agree with it or not. So the DebatePolitics self-appointed knower of all knowledge doesn't agree - I'm crushed. By the way, why aren't you in the running to be the next Pope? You're clearly infallible, right?

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Nothing you've said here is remotely accurate - just because something happens to float out of your ass doesn't make it a gem of wisdom. I've neither forgotten what I initially said and I've no need to defend it - it's my view, whether you agree with it or not. So the DebatePolitics self-appointed knower of all knowledge doesn't agree - I'm crushed. By the way, why aren't you in the running to be the next Pope? You're clearly infallible, right?
    I don't look good in white, otherwise I would

    And I'd be a shoe-in for the job
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I don't look good in white, otherwise I would

    And I'd be a shoe-in for the job
    I believe you would - and just in case you missed it, that's not a compliment.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I believe you would - and just in case you missed it, that's not a compliment.
    I'm infallible

    Or did you forget already?
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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