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    Re: New study raises questions about religion as deterrent against criminal behaviour

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Prison ministries just give inmates something to do to pass the time for the most part and a way for inmates waiting trial/parole hearings to try to make it look like they have turned over a new leaf. People gaming the system are not taking faith seriously so you cannot put it as a failure of faith when those same people re-offend.
    There are legitimately inmates who convert and follow the religion in a virtuous way. I just don't see religion as a "deterrent" to crime in any meaningful way.

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    Re: New study raises questions about religion as deterrent against criminal behaviour

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It's only a deterrent if the person believes it. Even then, as pointed out, there are religious where you "confess your sins" and are saved again. Not much of a deterrent if you ask me.
    The truth is it all boils down to proper upbringing of kids by parents regardless of religion.

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    Re: New study raises questions about religion as deterrent against criminal behaviour

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    The truth is it all boils down to proper upbringing of kids by parents regardless of religion.
    Yes, I don't disagree. However, that's like saying "if people don't commit crimes, there won't be criminals". It sounds pretty, but it's pretty meaningless because that isn't the reality of what's happening.

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    Re: New study raises questions about religion as deterrent against criminal behaviour

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    You got all that from the OP?
    No, from inmates

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    Re: New study raises questions about religion as deterrent against criminal behaviour

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmmm...Funny this part of the article....

    "hardcore criminals often co-opt religious doctrine to justify or further their crimes."

    reminds me of Black Liberation Theology.....I wonder why that is.....?
    Could tell you but it would get me banned.

    But it reminds me of the Christian Church over 2000 years.
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    Re: New study raises questions about religion as deterrent against criminal behaviour

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I was going to post this in the Religious Discussions forum until I read the 'sticky'


    I don't know how one can discuss any complex subject without using some 'criticism' - so this topic is here



    Here's a link to the abstract of the study


    The bolded part is one aspect that I think will require further study and is certainly something that we may 'enjoy' discussing.
    Considering all the scam artist televangelists and mega church preachers I am not surprised by this part. Jesus didn't own a mule but for some reason God says these preachers need a multimillion dollar mansion, a new satellite dish and so on.


    New study raises questions about religion as deterrent against criminal behaviour
    A provocative new study is challenging assumptions about the deterrent effect of religion on criminal behaviour. The U.S. study found that through “purposeful distortion or genuine ignorance,” hardcore criminals often co-opt religious doctrine to justify or further their crimes.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: New study raises questions about religion as deterrent against criminal behaviour

    I think the proper conclusion of this study is that people who have some kind of personality or mood disorder (of whom there are plenty) and who wish to commit crimes aren't stopped by the fact that they subscribe to some religion or other.

    Whether religions have a more general deterance, however, isn't challenged by these findings, at least as explained in the abstract.

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    Re: New study raises questions about religion as deterrent against criminal behaviour

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    The truth is it all boils down to proper upbringing of kids by parents regardless of religion.
    So everything can be blamed on the parents?

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    Re: New study raises questions about religion as deterrent against criminal behaviour

    "New study raises questions about religion as deterrent against criminal behaviour!"


    One is truly amazed at the enormous variety of ways the homosexuals and atheists come up with to demean the faith of complete strangers. Faith that they themselves lack and don't want others to have.

    There must be some sort of award for creativity in their mean, nacissistic little circles of superiority, rage and self-loathing. An award for striking out at those who have found happiness and satisfaction in life through religious faith.
    Last edited by Ray410; 02-19-13 at 01:35 PM.

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    Re: New study raises questions about religion as deterrent against criminal behaviour

    Dumb people are more likely to commit crimes. News at 11.

    I'm sure their religious convictions run about as deep as your average Kennedy family "catholic".

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