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After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slavery

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Grant said:
Ah, yes, Bill Clinton, the first Black President.
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Okay. Don't read it. Your arguments do work better when you're not informed. I happen to agree with you there. See? Common ground!
 
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Grant said:
Do you always make these charges without offering up any evidence for them? I'm really not interested in these juvenile responses.
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Know thyself, and know thine own party. No sane person claims the GOP doesn't have a serious problem with racism.
 
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Danbury said:
Know thyself, and know thine own party. No sane person claims the GOP doesn't have a serious problem with racism.
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Nice to have you here but lay off the Kool Ade for a while before joining in.
 
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Danbury said:
Well, you make some very astute points
here, and considering the US started as soon as Obama became president...okay, okay, that's overstating it a bit...considering the US was a veritable Utopia because Obama got his hands on it and there was no poverty and everyone was employed, making fabulous wages with incredible benefits and no one was on foodstamps and people went on foodstamps only because obama became president and yes, any success of Obama is simply redifined as a failure...your'e right. No successes.

I have nothing against successful black people. I have a lot against Clarence Thomas, and it has nothing to do with the color of his skin. Or do you believe that a black man merely succeeding in terms of a paycheck and/or stature (whether deserved or not) is enough? THAT is racism.
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No, every President is responsible for the economic activity of his term.

You want to mitigate Obama's failure by dragging in "The Great Recession" then be my guest. Its disingenuos to say the least.

Obamas policies have perpetuated the recession and his policies have led to a world finanial crisis that involves many nations.

You guys need to realize when our economy suffers so does that of every major Western style run Nation.

And for what ? So he can blindly carry out his personal vendettas and stick to a ideology thats proven to be bankrupt.

You think ObamaCare is going to do good things ? Or that our economy is going to improve ?

No way.
 
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Danbury said:
You need to set the partisan warfare aside, get some history under your belt, and consider how every era has its own ethos and you have to look at each era from THAT perspective, not by conflating it with yours.

As for racism in terms of political party, referring back to make some point about the present is absurd. The FACT is, the GOP has a rather serious problem with racism, as does the US, and it's actually gotten worse over the last four years of Obama's presidency, and you'd best believe it is conservative angst that has risen to the surface.

Fix your OWN party. You're the only ones who can.
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You WISH the GOP had racist issues anf try and propagandize that desire, bit in reality it's the Democrats that have done far more to keep black folks down.
 
Re: Mississippi just got around to ratifying the 13th Amendment.

PeteEU said:
So let me get this straight... you are more worried about me pointing out something wrong in America, than you are acknowledging said problem and being critical of said problem....

Let me ask you this.. are you not against such laws as I and others have pointed out? Are you for slavery and segregation? Why is it that you constantly attack people for pointing out bad things that right wingers have done in America, instead of say... hey you know what... you are right, this guy/thing/idea is idiotic and should be changed. Instead you and your fellow bedfellows continue to defend such things till you turn blue in the face.... why is that?
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Your criticisms are erroneous and based on hatred more than fact.
 
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All this left vs right partisan stuff is just a pissing match based upon defending one's ideological turf. Maybe if people would stop using a political lean as their identity and start understanding political terms as concepts, instead, they might see that there are extremes at both left and right that are intolerant, rigid, dogmatic and highly prejudiced.

The right has its share of racists, jingiosts, Christian Reich types, survivalists and other nut jobs. The left has its share of antisemites, anti-Christian bigots, America haters, anarchists, and other nut jobs. What people are failing to recognize when they indulge in these pissing matches is that considering yourself as part of the left or part of the right doesn't mean you are one of them and that it should not preclude you from criticizing these extremes.
 
Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

apdst said:
That doesn't prove anything.

I asked for actual evidence of racist policies, that are being pushed by the GOP.
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A GOP Senate candidate, who won his primary quite handily, pushing to overturn the Voting Rights Act of 1965 sounds like a pretty damned racist GOP policy move to me.
 
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Gardener said:
All this left vs right partisan stuff is just a
pissing match based upon defending
one's ideological turf. Maybe if people would stop using a political lean as their identity and start understanding political terms as concepts, instead, they might see that there are extremes at both left and right that are intolerant, rigid, dogmatic and highly prejudiced.

The right has its share of racists, jingiosts, Christian Reich types, survivalists and other nut jobs. The left has its share of antisemites, anti-Christian bigots, America haters, anarchists, and other nut jobs. What people are failing to recognize when they indulge in these pissing matches is that considering yourself as part of the left or part of the right doesn't mean you are one of them and that it should not preclude you from criticizing these extremes.
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Generics...nice.

We could generalize everything down to the point of total inaction.

I mean whats the point of this site if we cant isolate the diferences between right and wrong and call out tactics from opposing view points ?

Truth is unfounded racist accusations have been leveled at the GOP by a party that is historically racist and has implemented policies that have contributed to the destruction of the black family.

BS is BS and and its got to to be isolated and addressed if there is any hope for this country.
 
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calamity said:
A GOP Senate candidate, who won his
primary quite handily, pushing to overturn the Voting Rights Act of 1965 sounds like a pretty damned racist GOP policy move to me.
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Got a link and not from a progressive site ?

Or are you still talking about Duke ?
 
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calamity said:
A GOP Senate candidate, who won his primary quite handily, pushing to overturn the Voting Rights Act of 1965 sounds like a pretty damned racist GOP policy move to me.
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One dude makes all Republicans racists?

Did he want to overturn the entire legislation, or just Section 5, which legalizes racial gerrymandering?

I still don't see any evidence that the GOP is inherently racist. All I see is Left wing propaganda.
 
Re: Mississippi just got around to ratifying the 13th Amendment.

PeteEU said:
So let me get this straight... you are more worried about me pointing out something wrong in America, than you are acknowledging said problem and being critical of said problem....

Let me ask you this.. are you not against such laws as I and others have pointed out? Are you for slavery and segregation? Why is it that you constantly attack people for pointing out bad things that right wingers have done in America, instead of say... hey you know what... you are right, this guy/thing/idea is idiotic and should be changed. Instead you and your fellow bedfellows continue to defend such things till you turn blue in the face.... why is that?
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The problem is that you are fanatically biased and America hating, which you don't deny. So anything you post has questionable credibility. Add that to the credibility of what your sidekick posts, we have a large negative credibility factor. You were able to find a single example to prove some negative point you were trying to make, while ignoring the majority of the states that parted with slavery long ago.
 
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haymarket said:
Some very interesting questions that will no doubt go without honest answers.
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We're all still waiting for your honest answers in the gun control forums, maybe you should be concentrating there.
 
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Fenton said:
Got a link and not from a progressive site ?

Or are you still talking about Duke ?
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Adkins. Link was provided earlier that quoted him.
 
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American said:
The problem is that you are fanatically biased and America hating, which you don't deny. So anything you post has questionable credibility. Add that to the credibility of what your sidekick posts, we have a large negative credibility factor. You were able to find a single example to prove some negative point you were trying to make, while ignoring the majority of the states that parted with slavery long ago.
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That's a cop-out. I'm sure the dude doesn't hate America, just what certain idiots do in her name.
 
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American said:
We're all still waiting for your honest answers in the gun control forums, maybe you should be concentrating there.
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And your misrepresentation of my positions on guns has what to do with this thread and your inability to give answers to what you are asked here?
 
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calamity said:
That's a cop-out. I'm sure the dude doesn't hate America, just what certain idiots
do in her name.
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If he doesn't hate America he hates honest objective insight and common sense.
 
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calamity said:
A GOP Senate candidate, who won his primary quite handily, pushing to overturn the Voting Rights Act of 1965 sounds like a pretty damned racist GOP policy move to me.
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What part of the voting act is this person trying to overturn? Are they trying to prevent Blacks from voting? If so please supply the evidence.
 
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Grant said:
What part of the voting act is this person trying to overturn? Are they trying to prevent Blacks from voting? If so please supply the evidence.
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Trying to take federal oversight out of states with a history of denying Blacks the right to vote is pretty darned blatant. Now, I suspect that conservatives will argue that states like Mississippi and Alabama would never ever do anything to deny Blacks to the right to vote. Which, of course, doesn't pass the smell test.
 
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Grant said:
There was nothing there that indicated racism.
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Didn't you say the same thing about Strom Thurmund leaving the Democratic Party?

Pwnd ya pretty bad on that one too, IIRC.

Well, here ya go again:
Rep. Todd Akin, the GOP’s candidate for U.S. Senate in Missouri, suggested in an interview that it was time to “look at or overturn” the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965...

The Voting Rights Act of 1965 prohibits the states from implementing voting procedures that “discriminate on the basis of race, color or membership in a language minority group.” The law built on the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which “prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, and national origin in programs and activities receiving federal financial assistance.”
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You're pretty much blind to racism. Aren't ya? Even when it's staring you right in the face.
 
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calamity said:
Trying to take federal oversight out of states with a history of denying Blacks the right to vote is pretty darned blatant. Now, I suspect that conservatives will argue that states like Mississippi and Alabama would never ever do anything to deny Blacks to the right to vote. Which, of course, doesn't pass the smell test.
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So there is nothing racist involved here then. Only the possibility that these States the Democrats once controlled may turn racist once more.

I really doubt that's going to happen.
 
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Grant said:
So there is nothing racist involved here then. Only the possibility that these States the Democrats once controlled may turn racist once more.

I really doubt that's going to happen.
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You did see where David Duke couldn't win an election as a Democrat but grabbed himself a House Seat as a Republican. Right?
 
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calamity said:
You did see where David Duke couldn't win an election as a Democrat but grabbed himself a House Seat as a Republican. Right?
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And what does that tell you?
 
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