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    Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Let's try this again. Are you arguing that Strom Thurmond left the Democrats because they were racist and joined the Republicans because they were not?

    Surely not.

    Does Wiki have a liberal bias?
    Are you saying that Strom Thurman changed parties for purely racist reasons?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Are you being obtuse or are you just extremely ignorant? Southern politics
    radically changed in the 1960's after LBJ pushed through the Civil Rights Act. Anyone who studied any amount of US History knows this.

    You're basically arguing that the Democratic party never changed which is either an intentional lie or a stunningly ill-informed statement. Either way, it's false.
    It changed and for the worse ( and thats saying something ) as Democrats realized they could buy votes and force people into their party by perpetuating policies that enable dependence.

    And its still going on strong. Do you want me to post the unemployment rates and percentage of blacks on Govt assistance ......currently ?

    Or do you want to ?

    Welfare reform is typically a discussion that involves demagogy and accusations of cruelty from the left and reasoned statements from those on the right.

    Get over it, your party institutionalized slavery and called it "assistance" and sympathy.

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    Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

    The Democrats of the 70's moved too far to the Left. True.

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    Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

    No. I'm saying the Southern Democrats and those who once voted for them became Republicans for reasons of race.

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    Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

    Didn't read it.

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    Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    No. I'm saying the Southern Democrats and those who once voted for them became Republicans for reasons of race.
    Maybe because there were too many racists in the Democrat party? Afterall, it was the Democrats who killed civil rights legislation prior to 1964--Al Gore, Lyndon Johnson--and a higher percentage of Democrats voted against the CRB of 1964. Why would racist Democrats change to the party that voted 92% yay for the CRB of 1964?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Maybe because there were too many racists in the Democrat party? Afterall, it was the Democrats who killed civil rights legislation prior to 1964--Al Gore, Lyndon Johnson--and a higher percentage of Democrats voted against the CRB of 1964. Why would racist Democrats change to the party that voted 92% yay for the CRB of 1964?

    Screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeech! Thud!

    That's the sound of a Republican hitting the brick wall of thinking.

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    Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

    I'm not shocked it is Mississippi,those kind's of thing move at snails speed there. ijs

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    Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Here's the deal. this is not all about Strom Thurmond any more than it is about Robert Byrd, George Wallace or Bull Conner. If we are going to single out individuals from each party as being representative of that party then the debate will just evolve into nothingness.

    What can be debated however is the general philosophy of each party over the generations. In that sense I feel the Republicans come out far ahead.
    Southern Democrats left the party when the party leadership pushed through Civil Rights. Simple as that, though some would interpret the spilt as more about economics than race.
    The bill divided and engendered a long-term change in the demographics of both parties. President Johnson realized that supporting this bill would risk losing the South's overwhelming support of the Democratic Party. Both Attorney General Robert Kennedy and Vice President Johnson had pushed for the introduction of the civil rights legislation. Johnson told Kennedy aide Ted Sorensen that "I know the risks are great and we might lose the South, but those sorts of states may be lost anyway."[29] Senator Richard Russell, Jr. warned President Johnson that his strong support for the civil rights bill "will not only cost you the South, it will cost you the election."[30] Johnson, however, went on to win the 1964 election by one of the biggest landslides in American history. The South, which had started to vote increasingly Republican beginning in the 1930s, continued that trend, becoming the stronghold of the Republican party by the 1990s.[31] Political scientists Richard Johnston and Byron Schafer have argued that this development was based more on economics than on race.
    Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Be all that as it may, fact remains, the D's of the 60's are not the same as the D's post the Civil Rights era.

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    Re: After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slaver

    Quote Originally Posted by Danbury View Post
    Screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeech! Thud!

    That's the sound of a Republican hitting the brick wall of thinking.
    What do you mean?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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