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    Re: Popular D.C. Burger Joint Forced to Shut Down

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    Popular D.C. Burger Joint Forced to Shut Down « CBS DC



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    Re: Popular D.C. Burger Joint Forced to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You still cannot post anything factual about my businesses or show that anything I said about them is not true, but I have proven that the statements you've made about my business could not have been honest statements.
    That would be YOU who has not posted anything factual about your supposed businesses. You have proven nothing and in fact, your inability to provide any details make these businesses appear all the more fictional.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So I find it off (ie hysterically funny) that you would demand that I stop making **** up when I have made nothing up, while there is no doubt that you have
    Your ducking, dodging and unrealistic assertions have led me, and others to believe you're making this up.


    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Your claim that a business with no employees can only be one that does nothing more than "stuffing envelopes at home" proves that your knowledge of the business world is not as great as mine. Consultants, real estate brokers, investors in the securities markets, and many others have made a great deal of money without employing anyone besides themselves.
    That's nice, but I didn't make that claim. Those single person businesses are not relevent to the discussion at hand and you know it. If you don't have employees you're not affected by the government regulations that are the subject of this discussion. If you knew about running a business in the first place, you'd know that.

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    Re: Popular D.C. Burger Joint Forced to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I've owned business is a variety including, but not limited to food services, finance, consumer goods, and others.

    And I've never had a problem complying with the law. Your posts suggest that you have. Maybe you could give an actual example of this, instead of arguing that it happens without giving one example of it actually happening.
    Did you have a hotdog cart? What? How many employees do you have?

    Again, if someone wants to expand their business beyond 50 employees, will Obamacare make that less difficult or more difficult?

    Being forced to cut employee hours to 29 helps employees or hurts employees?

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    Re: Popular D.C. Burger Joint Forced to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Did you have a hotdog cart? What? How many employees do you have?

    Again, if someone wants to expand their business beyond 50 employees, will Obamacare make that less difficult or more difficult?

    Being forced to cut employee hours to 29 helps employees or hurts employees?
    He doesn't know. His fictional businesses don't have employees. Or maybe they do and he's never been affected negatively by government regulation. Must be nice.

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    Re: Popular D.C. Burger Joint Forced to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That would be YOU who has not posted anything factual about your supposed businesses. You have proven nothing and in fact, your inability to provide any details make these businesses appear all the more fictional.
    I'm not the one who is claiming that there are some mythical rules causing businesses to shut down. But if you like, I can post a rule that hasnt caused any business to shut down.

    Your ducking, dodging and unrealistic assertions have led me, and others to believe you're making this up.
    I haven't ducked anything. Please identify any issue I have ducked. Please include links to support your dishonest accusation




    That's nice, but I didn't make that claim. Those single person businesses are not relevent to the discussion at hand and you know it. If you don't have employees you're not affected by the government regulations that are the subject of this discussion. If you knew about running a business in the first place, you'd know that.
    You certainly did make that claim, It's just one of several where you just made crap up because you can't back your claims with anything substantive or factual. For example, for all the whining, you still have not identified any rule that has shut down a viable business.
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    Re: Popular D.C. Burger Joint Forced to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Did you have a hotdog cart? What? How many employees do you have?

    Again, if someone wants to expand their business beyond 50 employees, will Obamacare make that less difficult or more difficult?

    Being forced to cut employee hours to 29 helps employees or hurts employees?
    If someone is running a company that employs 50+ people, is properly capitalized and viable, then Obamacare is nothing but a small bump in the road.

    And cutting employee hours is something companies do wherever possible with or without Obamacare. There are other laws which require employers to do things for their full time employees aside from Obamacare.
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    Re: Popular D.C. Burger Joint Forced to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    He doesn't know. His fictional businesses don't have employees. Or maybe they do and he's never been affected negatively by government regulation. Must be nice.
    I'm still waiting for you to post a real life example of how a govt regulation forced you to shut one of your businesses down
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    Re: Popular D.C. Burger Joint Forced to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I'm not the one who is claiming that there are some mythical rules causing businesses to shut down. But if you like, I can post a rule that hasnt caused any business to shut down.
    Post where I made that claim - let's see the quote.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I haven't ducked anything. Please identify any issue I have ducked. Please include links to support your dishonest accusation
    The entire do I or don't I have employees routine you've been running. Laughable.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You certainly did make that claim, It's just one of several where you just made crap up because you can't back your claims with anything substantive or factual. For example, for all the whining, you still have not identified any rule that has shut down a viable business.
    Once again, you're re-interpreting what I've posted and responding to your own imaginings.

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    Re: Popular D.C. Burger Joint Forced to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Post where I made that claim - let's see the quote.
    It's possible that I'm mistaken about that. If so, I'm glad to see that you disagree with the OP and realize that govt regs do not cause businesses to shut down.



    The entire do I or don't I have employees routine you've been running. Laughable.
    I merely pointed out that you have no knowledge of my employees, therefore any claim made about how I treat them is a dishonest one

    Once again, you're re-interpreting what I've posted and responding to your own imaginings.
    So then why don't you tell us what your point is? After all, the thread was started with an OP that claims a business was shut down due to business regs.

    Or maybe you just don't have anything to say about the issue.
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    Re: Popular D.C. Burger Joint Forced to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If someone is running a company that employs 50+ people, is properly capitalized and viable, then Obamacare is nothing but a small bump in the road.
    Really? Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Businesses operate at the margin. Do you really believe that businesses are just going to eat these costs and not raise prices?

    And cutting employee hours is something companies do wherever possible with or without Obamacare. There are other laws which require employers to do things for their full time employees aside from Obamacare.
    Wrong. If increasing hours for workers increases profits and productivity, then that is what businesses do. A massive Government regulation like Obamacare creates a disincentive for them to do that however, and only ends up hurting the employee in the long run. Clearly you are posting from a position of ideology, not knowledge or experience.

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