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    Re: Petitioners paint Obama as ‘misogynist’ who’s ‘alienating’ women

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    He wants healthcare for everyone, paid for by everyone. People were complaining a hell of a lot more about paying for care that's specific to women, no one talked about denying any male specific healthcare.
    Here's a list of preventative services without co-pays, as required under the ACA. But, yes all that some concentrated on was the contraceptives for women.


    Preventive Services Covered Under the Affordable Care Act | HealthCare.gov
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    Re: Petitioners paint Obama as ‘misogynist’ who’s ‘alienating’ women

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    He wants healthcare for everyone, paid for by everyone. People were complaining a hell of a lot more about paying for care that's specific to women, no one talked about denying any male specific healthcare.
    He wants someone else to pay for women's BC pills but as far as recall there was no mention of buying condoms for men.

    The whole thing is ridiculous anyway and only demonstrates further how juvenile much of the electorate has become when these, and the 'folders full of women', are the election issues.

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    Re: Petitioners paint Obama as ‘misogynist’ who’s ‘alienating’ women

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    He wants healthcare for everyone, paid for by everyone. People were complaining a hell of a lot more about paying for care that's specific to women, no one talked about denying any male specific healthcare.
    Would you pass a work site and ask the workers to pay for your birth control pills, or for condoms for your boyfriend? Or ask the person next to you on the bus, or at a PTA meeting or a taxi driver?

    I don;t think so. And the reason is because we are supposed to be reasonable adults looking after issues such as these by ourselves. But when the government says they'll pay (meaning these same people at job sites etc) then it becomes okay.

    But it's not okay. It makes us all dependent and excuses us of our own responsibilities as adults. It creates a nation of juveniles, and we are seeing a lot of that already.

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    Re: Petitioners paint Obama as ‘misogynist’ who’s ‘alienating’ women

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    Would you pass a work site and ask the workers to pay for your birth control pills, or for condoms for your boyfriend? Or ask the person next to you on the bus, or at a PTA meeting or a taxi driver?

    I don;t think so. And the reason is because we are supposed to be reasonable adults looking after issues such as these by ourselves. But when the government says they'll pay (meaning these same people at job sites etc) then it becomes okay.

    But it's not okay. It makes us all dependent and excuses us of our own responsibilities as adults. It creates a nation of juveniles, and we are seeing a lot of that already.
    Except far right conservatives like you keep arguing against a fictional problem.

    The government is not paying for birth control.

    They are mandating insurance companies treat birth control pills like any other needed prescription drug and cover it under a plan which someone is paying for.

    You, as usual are arguing from a fictional universe.

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    Re: Petitioners paint Obama as ‘misogynist’ who’s ‘alienating’ women

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Here's a list of preventative services without co-pays, as required under the ACA. But, yes all that some concentrated on was the contraceptives for women. Preventive Services Covered Under the Affordable Care Act | HealthCare.gov
    That's only demonstrates further how infantile much of the American public has become, at least in the eyes of the government. Much of that list involves things that the average person should already know, and the bureaucracy to handle all the dietary problems of the average overweight person, for example, will largely be ignored anyway.

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    Re: Petitioners paint Obama as ‘misogynist’ who’s ‘alienating’ women

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He wants someone else to pay for women's BC pills but as far as recall there was no mention of buying condoms for men.

    The whole thing is ridiculous anyway and only demonstrates further how juvenile much of the electorate has become when these, and the 'folders full of women', are the election issues.
    That's not the same thing. Womens birth control are often prescribed for womens health issues:
    Other Reasons to Take the Pill

    I was prescribed them for severe pain that over the counter pain killers wasn't helping with. If we have some form of universal health care system then why should they not be covered when they're often times being used for health care?
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    Re: Petitioners paint Obama as ‘misogynist’ who’s ‘alienating’ women

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There are probably Bimbos within the Spanish community as well, though they tend to be less vocal than those in the BimbosforBama campaign. And what's more the Dems know these women aren't terribly bright. The same is true for many men too, of course, but Obama did get the single women vote.

    Stephanie Cutter: Women Will Vote For Obama Because They’re Stupid | RedState

    Bimbos will always be leftists until they mature into responsible adults.
    Are you really so far gone that you think that headline is a fair representation of what was said? Wow, dude. You just don't even bother to hide your misogyny.
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    Re: Petitioners paint Obama as ‘misogynist’ who’s ‘alienating’ women

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Except far right conservatives like you keep arguing against a fictional problem.

    The government is not paying for birth control.

    They are mandating insurance companies treat birth control pills like any other needed prescription drug and cover it under a plan which someone is paying for.

    You, as usual are arguing from a fictional universe.

    That may be a valid argument if Obamacare wasn't designed to collapse the private insurance system in Health Care, and move everyone to a Universal system.
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    Re: Petitioners paint Obama as ‘misogynist’ who’s ‘alienating’ women

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    That's not the same thing. Womens birth control are often prescribed for womens health issues:
    Other Reasons to Take the Pill

    I was prescribed them for severe pain that over the counter pain killers wasn't helping with. If we have some form of universal health care system then why should they not be covered when they're often times being used for health care?
    Actually, we've been through this before, the pill is not prescribed anymore in the vast majority of these cases. And even in the small amount it is, it is not the majority of why the pill is used. You know that, but like most arguments that surround this sort of issue, the left latches on to the 1 in 100K example to justify the broad coverage, and deflect why the standard application is what they want.
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    Re: Petitioners paint Obama as ‘misogynist’ who’s ‘alienating’ women

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Although I found it laughable in the SoTU speech that Obama would be taking credit for equality, and parity in the workplace between men and women, when the fact is that in his own house the disparity is about 16% for women working the exact same jobs as men, now it seems that Obama has to deal with the PC police, and outrage anarchists as well....

    good.
    This sometimes is why the super-femme-nazi's get on my last nerve . . . they lose their ability to logically reason through **** - look:

    This is what he said:
    “We know our economy is stronger when our wives, mothers and daughters can live their lives free from discrimination in the workplace and free from the fear of domestic violence.”
    Just how should that reworded to be 'not-offensive' because when you're talking about sexual discrimination in the workplace it's obvious he's addressing men who DO the discriminating . . . and he's trying to get these stupid men to think of these women as someone's mother, someone's wife, someone's daughter - etc . . . You know - see them as people and respect them. It's a negotiation tactic, actually.

    Just what exactly do they want to hear instead?

    You know - since they're so much smarter than me on this maybe they can give an example of what's acceptable.

    Uh no - they just want it to be said, "We know of economy is stronger when women can live their lives free from discrimination in the workplace and free from the fear of domestic violence."

    Well call me a retarded rock - because that just doesn't deliver the same personal message to me. It's cold and distant - merely defining women by their gender alone and nothing more, don't you think?

    LOL - but I am laughing at the 'we know our economy is stronger' - what the **** does sexual discrimination have to do with the economy?
    LOL - not a damn thing.
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