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girl gets boot from Catholic football league

What on earth does that have to do with anything? It didn't REALLY happen, you know. She wasn't REALLY impregnated by a god. There was no parthenogenically bared offspring to be aborted.

That's your choice to believe, but don't treat it as fact.
 
That's your choice to believe, but don't treat it as fact.

Ironic - considering that religious people don't extend the same consideration . . . religious people will argue it's truth - and will argue that the sexes are treated differently within religious guidelines because it says to do so in the Bible.

So I'll say the same: it's your choice to believe that it happened - and the sexes are created unequal - but don't treat it as fact.

We're talking football, anyway - which she was playing until some assholes decided to bitch about it. . .nevermind those god-given talents that he told people not to squander, hunh? If it violates the gender-roles expected to be cloven to by the church you just need to pretend God didn't make you that way.
 
That the Catholic Church still holds desperately onto it's sexist views.

Just a statement of fact.

As do public schools across the nation. Why not go after them first since they are the vast majority of the problem.
 
Ironic - considering that religious people don't extend the same consideration . . . religious people will argue it's truth - and will argue that the sexes are treated differently within religious guidelines because it says to do so in the Bible.

So I'll say the same: it's your choice to believe that it happened - and the sexes are created unequal - but don't treat it as fact.

They are unequal. That doesn't mean that they're unequitable. Only women have give birth, thus inequality is inherent.

We're talking football, anyway - which she was playing until some assholes decided to bitch about it. . .nevermind those god-given talents that he told people not to squander, hunh? If it violates the gender-roles expected to be cloven to by the church you just need to pretend God didn't make you that way.

If she gets hurt then what? You're too rash to judge and say that this is about sexism.
 
As do public schools across the nation. Why not go after them first since they are the vast majority of the problem.

Who says I don't?

She was ON the team and then they decided to bump her OFF the team. :shrug: Don't tell me that's not unfair and not just downright mean.
 
Only in positions that require ordination. That's one place the Church cannot go. The priest is supposed to act in persona Christi. Christ came as a man, so how could a woman perform this role? In addition, there were only men at the last supper where ordination began. Thus, it is not that the Church will not ordain women; rather they cannot.

But for other positions, the Church has no position. They can be sacristans, run charities, run convents, etc. There is no problem with that. And lest you think that women have no role in the theology of the Church, remember St. Therese who is a doctor of the Church.

You can call it heretical, but I am unconvinced about the necessity of God having to transform himself into a man. I would assume if the situation required it, God would have chosen a female form. I would be even less convinced after the apostles being men, that here on out, that is all that can be said on the matter.
 
The way words are being thrown out here you'll be called a sexist for saying boys have a penis and girls have a vagina.
 
You can call it heretical, but I am unconvinced about the necessity of God having to transform himself into a man. I would assume if the situation required it, God would have chosen a female form. I would be even less convinced after the apostles being men, that here on out, that is all that can be said on the matter.

He could have, but he didn't.
 
He could have, but he didn't.

But perhaps each choice doesn't necessitate that it cannot or must not be, but rather a choice was made.
 
Who says I don't?

She was ON the team and then they decided to bump her OFF the team. :shrug: Don't tell me that's not unfair and not just downright mean.

And boys who have been kicked off girls teams under similar circumstances?
 
And boys who have been kicked off girls teams under similar circumstances?

No one care about them because sexism only works one way :shrug:
 
They are unequal. That doesn't mean that they're unequitable. Only women have give birth, thus inequality is inherent.



If she gets hurt then what? You're too rash to judge and say that this is about sexism.

The overall religious topic doesn't matter so much because we just debated that in another thread and it's really all the same stuff we've said recently. Nothing's changed. My view stands unwavering.

But "If she gets hurt? . . . "

Well my GOD imagine a FOOTBALL player getting HURT!

They ALL risk getting hurt - she is no different than everyone else . . . on that we're all equal: we can all break legs and bleed out. She has just as much risk as they do. What was that supposed to be a point for: did you think I would go "Oh my - yes - we can't risk the little poor girl getting hurt . . . but letting the boys play football is fine?"

You really thought I'd be like that, didn't you?

Think again - My daughter's the only child we have still in karate. Obviously I don't cleave to those archaic notions of gender frailty and inability.

I am not the mother to speak that dribble to and expect it to sway my hover mother heart :roll:

If you're worried about KIDS getting hurt playing SPORTS then don't let them play! It's a risk that goes along with everyone who engages in physical activity against another. My kids have had their share of 'group-game' injuries - everything from twisted ankles to gaping wounds, concussions and all else.

I'm not about to turn my kids into little skittish psychos by telling them "No! you might get hurt! You can't do anything!"
 
You can call it heretical, but I am unconvinced about the necessity of God having to transform himself into a man. I would assume if the situation required it, God would have chosen a female form. I would be even less convinced after the apostles being men, that here on out, that is all that can be said on the matter.

Which does not dictate anything regarding only men being priests.

The stated reason women were not ordained throughout the centuries was that they were inferior (Aquinas).

That reason has ceased to exist.
 
Who says I don't?

She was ON the team and then they decided to bump her OFF the team. :shrug: Don't tell me that's not unfair and not just downright mean.

If you look back you'll see I agree with you - ALL school sports should be coed IMO. School sports should exist only to educate (body mechanics, movement training, all the life lessons that go with team participation, etc.).

But making this about the church when so much of our public school system does the same thing is an odd focus and just comes off as being knee-jerk anti-religion.
 
If you look back you'll see I agree with you - ALL school sports should be coed IMO. School sports should exist only to educate (body mechanics, movement training, all the life lessons that go with team participation, etc.).

But making this about the church when so much of our public school system does the same thing is an odd focus and just comes off as being knee-jerk anti-religion.

Good point.
 
It would be fairer if they had physical standards for everyone. Minimum/Maximum position weights kinds of things. Do you see it as dangerous (forget political correctness) for an 80# girl to be playing on the field with players (of either sex) that outweigh her by 75-100 pounds? I do.

The pee-wee league in my town has weight restrictions for the league and for individual positions.
 
The pee-wee league in my town has weight restrictions for the league and for individual positions.

Unless the girl's a veritable ogre, the odds are that she's going to get murdered going up against Junior High or High School level males on the football field.
 
The pee-wee league in my town has weight restrictions for the league and for individual positions.


Yeah, they always have....And If I remember correctly from when I played, you actually have to try out, and make the cut.
 
Unless the girl's a veritable ogre, the odds are that she's going to get murdered going up against Junior High or High School level males on the football field.

And that's what I don't get about this. It should be obvious that while females mature faster, and are thus taller/bigger than boys when they are younger, eventually boys are going to outgrow them in physicality.

Its as though the PC crowd wants to ignore biology. Maybe they just hate it....
 
And that's what I don't get about this. It should be obvious that while females mature faster, and are thus taller/bigger than boys when they are younger, eventually boys are going to outgrow them in physicality.

Its as though the PC crowd wants to ignore biology. Maybe they just hate it....

Two things you're forgetting - that's a general statement you made, and there are frequent exceptions. Not all football positions require the largest mass/most strength.
 
Which does not dictate anything regarding only men being priests.

The stated reason women were not ordained throughout the centuries was that they were inferior (Aquinas).

That reason has ceased to exist.

I knew that was part of it, but I admit, Christian theological history was not previously my forte, though it is becoming more interesting to me the more I have been reading Monastical histories during the Middle Ages.
 
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