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girl gets boot from Catholic football league

I see nothing wrong with not allowing girls to play football with guys. A girl getting tackled by a 200# eight-grader just doesn't make sense to me. Oh, wait! We're not about common sense!! We're about political correctness.

That's not what's going on here.

This is purely a common sense situation. She loves playing football. She's good at it. She's good enough to play with the boys and be good at it.

Why can't she play?

Would you say a boy that weighs 80 pounds should be barred from playing on a team of boys that weigh 140 pounds even if they're all the same age?
 
actually weight limits are enforced in most jr leagues, due to safety concerns.
 
That's not what's going on here.

This is purely a common sense situation. She loves playing football. She's good at it. She's good enough to play with the boys and be good at it.

Why can't she play?

Would you say a boy that weighs 80 pounds should be barred from playing on a team of boys that weigh 140 pounds even if they're all the same age?

Actually, setting weight differentials would be fine with me, sans taking one's sex into account.

According to the Brain Injury Research Institute, in any given season, 20 percent of high school players sustain brain injuries. More than 40.5 percent of high school athletes who have suffered concussions return to action prematurely, which can lead to death from Second Impact Syndrome, a condition in which the brain swells, shutting down the brain stem and resulting in respiratory failure.

It's not just concussions we're concerned about. Purdue University researchers recently compared changes in the brains of high school football players who had suffered concussions with the brains of players who were concussion-free and found brain tissue damage in both. That's scary stuff. That means brain injuries are occurring without players, coaches or parents being aware of it.

Repetitive subconcussive hits to the head can cause as much damage as concussion-causing hits. A growing focus in the brain trauma field is chronic traumatic encephalopathy, a brain degeneration disease. It has many symptoms similar to Alzheimer's and other neurological diseases, however it isn't the result of some endogenous disease but due to brain injury — being hit too many times in the head.

Now consider that the average high school football lineman receives 1,000 to 1,500 shots to the head during a single football season, based on estimates by Boston University researchers.

In my opinion, it won't be long before high school football either changes the rules dramatically or shuts down. Probably by insurance companies refusing to write policies to protect them from liability. It's a dangerous sport.
 
I doubt it has anything to do with safety at all. Just the church being prudish (though, the fact that boys are getting boners, and the girls tits, just happens to coiuncide with muscular development). But that doesn't mean the "we are all the same" talk is any less moronic. There are clear differences between the sexes that impact physical development

I don't see any "we are all the same" talk. I do see some making the argument that we all should be judged according to the same standard.
 
Actually, setting weight differentials would be fine with me, sans taking one's sex into account.



In my opinion, it won't be long before high school football either changes the rules dramatically or shuts down. Probably by insurance companies refusing to write policies to protect them from liability. It's a dangerous sport.

It is a dangerous sport. You're probably right: Before long, but after one or two successful lawsuits, the insurance industry will simply tell high schools that they're on their own if they decide to continue to have football teams.

Then, maybe we'll just join the rest of the world and play football they way they do.

and, if females can outplay males in some cases, so be it.

Some guys don't like strong women, but some do. It's a matter of individual choice.
 
All sports in HS, unless they are coed, should be banned, period. Schools shouldn't be NFL or NBA training camps. We're already sucking at trying to pay for and provide educational resources.
 
All sports in HS, unless they are coed, should be banned, period. Schools shouldn't be NFL or NBA training camps. We're already sucking at trying to pay for and provide educational resources.
You sound fat. Were you always picked last at recess, or something?

To the point: What IF they allowed the girl to play? What would happen the very first time she gets hit the wrong way and suffers a concussion?

Parents' lawsuit in 3...2...1....


That's what it always boils down to...risk and liability.
 
The school doesn't mention any concern about safety. The problem is that girls and boys will *gasp* in contact with each other.

Also, she is #110 and I see no mention of any 200# players. However, I did see this:

110# girl was knocking football players around? :roll:
 
Why do the homosexuals and atheists post thread after thread attacking Christianity? Why do they hate that others have a faith and happiness that they themselves lack?

Ah, religious hypocrisy at its finest!

Since you insist on religious arrogance and homophobia when making your observations, some more reading might be best for you:

Luke 6:37 "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

Luke 6:41 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
John 8:7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."

Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
Romans 14:10 You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.
Romans 14:13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.

1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.

James 4:11 Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it.
 
You sound fat. Were you always picked last at recess, or something?

To the point: What IF they allowed the girl to play? What would happen the very first time she gets hit the wrong way and suffers a concussion?

Parents' lawsuit in 3...2...1....

how is that different than what exists now? Also, student need to provide parental waivers to play on most school teams, for that exact reason
 
What do you expect.. she is a second class citizen just above gays in the eyes of the Catholic Church and most religions. After all she got no balls, hence she must be defective and needs protection......

Oh, you could just as easily make the remark that if Joan of Arc was good enough to be with the boys on the battlefield, a girl might be able to handle the gridiron ;)
 
You sound fat. Were you always picked last at recess, or something?

To the point: What IF they allowed the girl to play? What would happen the very first time she gets hit the wrong way and suffers a concussion?

Parents' lawsuit in 3...2...1....


That's what it always boils down to...risk and liability.

Nope, just the opposite, always too skinny in HS. And we suffer the same parent lawsuits when boys get concussions. Study after study confirms what those hits do to our children. Not to mention once you've lived long enough to see your 20 year reunion, take a look at what's left of the BB team - if they can walk at all, their knees will be artificial.

But I realise the knuckledraggers won't give up their high school sports, even if it damages their children. The very least we can do then is to make them all coed. Title IX, look into it.
 
'More than able to hold her own,' girl gets boot from Catholic football league - CNN.com



Nothing to see here folks, just more of the CC showing it's true sexist colors.

Girls playing sports that boys play is perfectly reasonable, however, the girl is 11 yrs old and we all know that girls are reaching puberty at a younger age these days, and football being a high contact sport, I can see why this might be a problem - I can imagine the flack the Church would get if this girl complained that boys were touching her inappropriately, in her mind.

Besides, considering the advancements in understanding concussions and the cumulative harm they can cause in later years, why are children that young, who's brains aren't fully developed, playing such a high contact sport? It's clearly the choice of the child and her parents, but if it was my child she wouldn't be playing football at that age.
 
Oh, you could just as easily make the remark that if Joan of Arc was good enough to be with the boys on the battlefield, a girl might be able to handle the gridiron ;)

She did dress like a man, and she's a saint in the oh so misogynistic church.
 
Yes, as all anti-Catholics know the women saints are all second-class saints. Mary? She's a joke to Catholics.

Forgive me - but all Mary did was have a baby - because God decided she was the one.

Yep - so free, there.

Individualism, equality and freedom is the antithesis of the Abrahamic religions. According to all: the genders have expectations and requirements and you're not living for yourself - you're living for God (etc). You're not free, you're not an individual and you're not equal.

It's just the way most religions go.
 
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She did dress like a man, and she's a saint in the oh so misogynistic church.

The church does (well, most churches do, frankly) have issues with women in leadership or positions of power. Not even Joan's story was missing that element (the understatement of a lifetime!). So, it is a misogynistic institution, but there are limits to that.
 
It should be noted that the same policy against coed participation exists in public schools around the nation. This isn't just a catholic school thing.
 
'More than able to hold her own,' girl gets boot from Catholic football league - CNN.com





Nothing to see here folks, just more of the CC showing it's true sexist colors.

It's silly for sure. She can play at that level, at least for now, and should be allowed to compete. However, this isn't new. Boys aren't allowed to play on girls teams. Remember about a year ago that boy that wasn't allowed to play with the girls field hockey team?

How many of you jumping up and down here excused that case?
 
The church does (well, most churches do, frankly) have issues with women in leadership or positions of power. Not even Joan's story was missing that element (the understatement of a lifetime!). So, it is a misogynistic institution, but there are limits to that.

Only in positions that require ordination. That's one place the Church cannot go. The priest is supposed to act in persona Christi. Christ came as a man, so how could a woman perform this role? In addition, there were only men at the last supper where ordination began. Thus, it is not that the Church will not ordain women; rather they cannot.

But for other positions, the Church has no position. They can be sacristans, run charities, run convents, etc. There is no problem with that. And lest you think that women have no role in the theology of the Church, remember St. Therese who is a doctor of the Church.
 
Forgive me - but all Mary did was have a baby - because God decided she was the one.

Yep - so free, there.

Individualism, equality and freedom is the antithesis of the Abrahamic religions. According to all: the genders have expectations and requirements and you're not living for yourself - you're living for God (etc). You're not free, you're not an individual and you're not equal.

It's just the way most religions go.

What's your point?
 
Only in positions that require ordination. That's one place the Church cannot go. The priest is supposed to act in persona Christi. Christ came as a man, so how could a woman perform this role? In addition, there were only men at the last supper where ordination began. Thus, it is not that the Church will not ordain women; rather they cannot.

But for other positions, the Church has no position. They can be sacristans, run charities, run convents, etc. There is no problem with that. And lest you think that women have no role in the theology of the Church, remember St. Therese who is a doctor of the Church.

The RCC will not ordain women by their own choice, under rules that they established for themselves.
 
You mean she would have been more acceptible had she opted for the lifestyle abortion?

Does that, in some way, counter that the Catholic Church is sexist with it's views about men and women? Or is the abortion-counter automatically brought up to avoid discussing it altogether?

What on earth does that have to do with anything? It didn't REALLY happen, you know. She wasn't REALLY impregnated by a god. There was no parthenogenically bared offspring to be aborted.

The story of Mary was, however, not the first story of a god impregnating a human. It is, however, the only one still widely believed by modern man in mass numbers. And of course - can only be used once in a religion, it seems, since she got the sainthood card.

That doesn't erase the fact that most religions have strict views of what is acceptable for the genders - very few support gender equality. Most are rigid with their expectations. It's just a fact - that apparently some people approve of and support and further and others don't.

What's your point?

That the Catholic Church still holds desperately onto it's sexist views.

Just a statement of fact.

What would you call it? "It's ok to treat the sexes differently because of their natural-born traits and our opinions on what they should do within that gender-role?" . . . that's sexism, you know.
 
The RCC will not ordain women by their own choice, under rules that they established for themselves.

If you want to completely ignore the reasoning that's your prerogative.
 
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