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    Re: Meteorite strikes, 'around 100 injured'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Im calling it.... that is 100% STUPID! 4th grade mentality.

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    Re: Meteorite strikes, 'around 100 injured'

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You are way more likely to have your home powered by
    Russian nuclear weapons then you are to be attacked by them.

    Great irony of the Cold War is that former Russian warheads are turned into MOX fuel to light up the homes they were built to annihilate.
    Thats interesting. The general consensus from the left is that Russia is no longer a threat, nor North Korea or China. And that Conservatives are suffering through some psychotic episode when the subject is brought up.

    When in fact on the 12th of this month two Russian long range Nuclear bombers ( TU-95 Bear H ) Buzzed Guam.

    Remember Guam, thats the Island Democrat Hank Johnson said would "tip over" if more marines were added.

    And you guys said George Bush was stupid.

    They were met by US fighters and happened to be armed with Nuclear tipped cruise missles.

    200 Kilo-tons each, thats 10 times the explosive power of the Hiroshima explosion.

    Yea we don't have to worry about those Ruskies anymore as Obama looks to unilaterally cut 1/3 of Americas arsenal.

    Truth is, if you show weakness, the bullies start to get unruly and its happening right before our eyes from China's potential crisis with Japan over the Senkaku Islands to the rising fundamental Islamic threat in the middle East.

    Wer'e supposed to defend Japan if that gets ugly, or if China makes a move on Taiwan. North Korea's already planning additional test and long range missle test. Irans a year away from a nuke, maybe less and they're sending chimps into space. ( Testing an ICBM )

    A simultaneous strategic attack on Isreal and Taiwan and Japan with our military already feeling the pinch as one of our Aircraft Carrier sits docked because of lack of funds to refuel and refit would be a debillitating strike to Americas military.

    This is happening for a reason. A weak presence in the oval office and our enemies know it.

    Liberals strike me as ignorant, not apathetic, just ignorant. When it affects them personally then they'll wake up. Personally I think that's chicken "$hit".
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    Re: Meteorite strikes, 'around 100 injured'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Thats interesting. The general consensus from the left is that Russia is no longer a threat, nor North Korea or China. And that Conservatives are suffering through some psychotic episode when the subject is brought up.
    Russia has nothing to gain from a war with the US or West. That of course does not dictate that their weapon capabilities aren't dangerous, but their interests are largely aligned with the West when it comes to many things, peace included. While Russia will wage some form of economic warfare, actual hot conflict is really something they'd try to avoid. And yes, Romney was off his rocker when he said the biggest threat to the US was Russia.

    When in fact on the 12th of this month two Russian long range Nuclear bombers ( TU-95 Bear H ) Buzzed Guam.
    So? We regularly run our Ohio classes well within range of their cities with enough nuclear firepower to turn every major Russian city into glass. Furthermore, the stealthy Virginia class lets us deploy SEAL teams directly on to foreign soil without anyone knowing. And we still have our B-2 bombers capable of dropping multimegaton warheads into the densest, most defended cities on the planet.

    Try to get some perspective for a change.

    They were met by US fighters and happened to be armed with Nuclear tipped cruise missiles
    So they're tweaking us. Besides, that doesn't even make sense. Those bombers are slow and easily taken out. If they really want to take Guam out, they'd use a submarine to a launch a nuclear tipped cruise missile. Russia is trying to get our attention, but it's hardly the real weapon they'd use. Essentially that's a one way trip for the bomber. With a submarine, the chance of an actual successful attack is much higher. Furthermore, Tupolev Tu-22M is a superior anti-US bomber than the bear is. Launching from Vladivostok, the Backfire is faster and much smaller target than the bear. And within the maximum range cruise missile, they are within range. They'd still come scary close to Kadena and the mere fact of a backfire flying would raise serious red alarms all through out the region, but that would be the aerial choice of platform, not the bear.

    Furthermore, based on ABC news, we knew about these bombers as soon as they took off from North East Russia. Japan had eyes on them with their own fighters. Bear bombers are slow, easy to track and easy to destroy. Takes lots of guts to actually get in to one of those. Bears are far more useful for standoff weapons when they have escorts, as recon and as experimental platforms: essentially the same stuff we use our B-52s for. Both the Bear and the BFF aren't really considered for front line combat.

    200 Kilo-tons each, thats 10 times the explosive power of the Hiroshima explosion.
    A P-700 has more than twice that capabilities. And can be launched from a stealthy submarine that has a much better chance at evading multiple layers of US defenses. On top of that, the extreme range of the Kh-55SM gives Anderson about 3 hours to prepare. US missile defenses aren't that good at taking out supersonic missiles, but 3 hours is plenty of time to setup missile interceptor batteries. The Granit gives Anderson about 20 minutes. It's pretty clear what they'd use if they were serious about destroying US equipment. So we have your scenario which requires bombers to get through multiple layers of defense, survive, then launch a series of missiles that will take about 3 hours to get to their target destination over sending a submarine to launch a much bigger payload per missile that goes double the speed and gives Guam only 20 minutes to actually prepare and evacuate. Conclusion: Russia is tweaking us because they can. Oh Putin, what a joker. The most direct route to hitting Guam would be to overfly one of the largest US airbases on the planet: Kadena. Yeah. Not going to happen.

    Yea we don't have to worry about those Ruskies anymore as Obama looks to unilaterally cut 1/3 of Americas arsenal.
    Pretty much. You seem worried about the wrong things. Besides, we really don't need that many nukes anyways.

    Truth is, if you show weakness, the bullies start to get unruly
    Is that why terrorists attacks are down after we invaded Iraq? Oh wait, they're not.

    and its happening right before our eyes from China's potential crisis with Japan over the Senkaku Islands
    How is that even related? China and Japan have been complaining about that for decades. Furthermore, Japan has territorial disputes with every neighbor it has. South Korea has been fighting Japan over its own set of stupid islands. Taiwan and Philippines both have their scraps with Tokyo over islands. What is causing the flare is up is the Japanese government's decision to buy the islands from its Japanese private land owners. If they had not done that, no one would be talking about this. Amusingly, the authorization was meant to reduce the problem as the Japanese government incorrectly believed that once they had purchased them, because they were now officially government property, China would back off. This has frankly nothing to do with the US and several US officials have quietly said that we will not go to war over "damn rocks."

    to the rising fundamental Islamic threat in the middle East.
    That has been starting since we funded the Mujahedin in Afghanistan all those years. And after Britain and France back stabbed their Arab allies after WWII. Neither have anything to do with what you are saying. In fact, our over reaction to 9/11 has directly benefited them as the cost to put it on was less than a few million and the economic damage and related debt is well into the trillions.

    You again seem worried about the wrong things.

    Wer'e supposed to defend Japan if that gets ugly, or if they make a move on Taiwan.
    Neither of which will happen. China undergoing its 10 year change of power and starting a war? Not going to happen. And Independence in Taiwan is no different then it was last couple elections. Furthermore, China will take Taiwan the way it's doing now: economically. Taiwan is so tied into the Chinese economy that given enough time, Taiwan will eventually revert to PRC control. It makes no sense for the Chinese to actually fight a war over Taiwan as long as Taiwan does not openly declare independence.

    North Korea's already planning additional test and long range missle test.
    And the missile will fail epically. Furthermore, NK uses its nuclear program to legitimize its government because it frankly has nothing else. Iran and North Korea share the desire to live. Using nukes ends their regimes.

    A simultaneous strategic attack on Isreal and Taiwan and Japan with our military already feeling the pinch as one of our Aircraft Carrier sits docked because of lack of funds to refuel and refit would be a debillitating strike to Americas military.
    You should read less Tom Clancy and more Foreign Policy. Iran cannot win a conventional war with Israel. And Iran knows that any nuclear first strike will instantly put the Arabs against them and see a dozen Israeli nukes fly back at them. Iran knows it cannot track the Dolphin class submarines Israel has and that have harpoon cruise missiles with nukes on them. Iran's nuclear arsenal is tiny compared to the Israelis.

    Besides, if China really wanted us dead, they'd simply just sell our bonds at a fire sale. That would seriously damage their economy, but if they were die hard enough, that would be better than starting a war.

    This is happening for a reason. A weak presence in the oval office and our enemies know it.
    No, you think that because you have really no idea what you are talking about.

    Liberals strike me as ignorant, not apathetic, just ignorant. When it affects them personally then they'll wake up. Personally I think that's chicken "$hit".
    Perhaps you should take off your tin foil hat. You really have no idea what you are discussing. Something tells me you seriously underestimated my knowledge on these subjects.
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    Re: Meteorite strikes, 'around 100 injured'

    In case you're wondering why a Backfire over a Blackjack, better combat radius at top speed. Sure the Blackjack has better overall range, but that's at a Mach 0.77 and you will get hunted down or intercepted much earlier at that speed. And they can carry more long range missiles than the Blackjack.
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    Re: Meteorite strikes, 'around 100 injured'

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    I think Russians are just less hysterical than Americans would be.
    But the driver could have less hysterically and more calmly just turn to the other direction from the meteorite and calmly step the peddle to the metal while listening to "Conquest of Paradise" of Vangelis then. The issue is that there is no meteorite specific response. The car just moves on with not much change of mood while exposed to what could be oblivion (if only the meteorite was larger).
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    Re: Meteorite strikes, 'around 100 injured'

    asteroids.jpg

    Couldnt resist, found it at AoS HQ.

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    Re: Meteorite strikes, 'around 100 injured'

    This morning they are reporting that this meteor is not connected to the Asteroid that missed us by 17k. That this was meteor wasn't anything that broke off from the Asteroid. They were both on different trajectories. 150 feet across about the size of a football field. Still enough to take out a city.

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    Re: Meteorite strikes, 'around 100 injured'

    I think the Mayan calendar was misinterpeted by scientists. I don't care. Let er rip. What a rush.

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    Re: Meteorite strikes, 'around 100 injured'

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    This morning they are reporting that this meteor is not connected to the Asteroid that missed us by 17k. That this was meteor wasn't anything that broke off from the Asteroid. They were both on different trajectories. 150 feet across about the size of a football field. Still enough to take out a city.
    Just think if it hit my city, norfolk. It would take out our navy.

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    Re: Meteorite strikes, 'around 100 injured'

    Apparently the injury toll is over 1000 now, though no deaths yet. The injuries come mainly from glass shattering from the sonic boom as it passed by!
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