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    Re: Pelosi: Congressional pay cut undermines dignity of the job

    Quote Originally Posted by Danbury View Post
    and yet, I've yet to see a Republican correctly grasp anything any Democrat ever says, always twisting it into something cynical. Of course, that is willful, and usually just following orders from FOX and Limbaugh, et al.
    You sure about that ? Do you really want your ass handed to you on a Friday by a Conservative who is much brighter than yourself ?

    Then explain what pelosi meant when she said for every dollar of food stamp assistance it creates 1.79 in economic activity.

    Or explain what Rep Hank Johnson (DEMOCRAT) meant when he publicly concerned himself with the eventuallity of the Island Of Guam tipping over if too many marines were added.

    Explain your Presients economic policies that have led us down a road of madsive debt, increased dependence and misery.

    You cant can you ?

    Your'e a Democrat.

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    Re: Pelosi: Congressional pay cut undermines dignity of the job

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You sure about that ? Do you really want your ass handed to you on a Friday by a Conservative who is much brighter than yourself ?

    Then explain what pelosi meant when she said for every dollar of food stamp assistance it creates 1.79 in economic activity.

    Or explain what Rep Hank Johnson (DEMOCRAT) meant when he publicly concerned himself with the eventuallity of the Island Of Guam tipping over if too many marines were added.

    Explain your Presients economic policies that have led us down a road of madsive debt, increased dependence and misery.

    You cant can you ?

    Your'e a Democrat.

    Am I sure? Yes. Quite.

    Are you brighter than me? No idea. How is it you know such a thing?

    Would I like my ass handed to me...? Not particularly. But if that's how you Christian-and-moral-values Republicans debate, who am I to stop you? Go for it.

    What Pelosi meant about the food stamps is exactly what she said, that for every dollar spent, 1.79 is created in economic activity. here's why (Pssst... you could have easily looked up the reasoning yourself, but I suspect you didn't really want to know. Not exactly a hallmark trait of bright people).
    Food stamps: The struggle to eat | The Economist

    Your comment about the Guam thing is also not exactly evidence of brightness in that you ascribe being a Democrat to saying a silly thing. Bright people, and even not-so-bright people, are well aware that saying stupid things is a human thing, NOT a political party thing.

    The president's policies have not led us down the path you mention. In fact, the increase in government assistance is a result of the Bush economic collapse/near Depression. Any time there is a massive economic collapse, the need for assistance goes up. In addition, common sense tells bright people that trickle-down economics (AKA Reaganomics/Gush-uponomics) will result in more hardship for the masses since you're redirecting most of the wealth to a tiny percentage of the population. Now presumably you support these economics. Please don't complain about the inevitable consequences.

    In addition, bright people are aware that Obama's spending is actually lower than Bush's. DEmocratic presidents actually spend LESS. Obama has not cut spending levels, but he has leveled them off, DESPITE a severe economic crisis. Biggest expenditures have been the war in Iraq and the tax cuts for very wealthy people, both of which you presumably supported and had not problem with such spending. But spending on improving infrastructure bothers you. go figure. That's a little like splurging on a Rolls Royce while condemning spending on a college education.

    Yes, I'm a Democrat. You got one thing right! Congratulations! I'm impressed.
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    Re: Pelosi: Congressional pay cut undermines dignity of the job

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayno View Post
    Well, I actually believe there's a few problems that need to be addressed.

    First is, we need to take that money they are being paid, and give them what's left over after they're paid that median income to finance their campaigns.

    And taking any more, or anything free from ANY other source, should be a campaign finance violation that disqualifies them from office.

    And this having lawyers in the House and Senate is DEFINITELY a conflict of interest, since they are already members of the judicial branch.

    They need to forfeit their law licenses while they're serving in office, and for 7 years after, along with a ban on working for ANYONE soliciting or doing business with the government, local, state, or federal, for 7 years as well.
    I can go along with this.
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    Re: Pelosi: Congressional pay cut undermines dignity of the job

    A public servant who OPENLY advocates committing fraud (we need to pass this bill to find out what's in it), using "dignity" in self reference, qualifies as a low information politician.

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    Pelosi: Congressional pay cut undermines dignity of the job

    So pelosi is a crazy whackado nut who vaguely resembles the joker? Go figure.
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    Re: Pelosi: Congressional pay cut undermines dignity of the job

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Pelosi: Congressional pay cut undermines dignity of the job - The Hill-


    Whiny bitch should have her entire paycheck sent to the Treasury to cover her fair share.
    This moronic witch must spend 100gs a year on Botox... her brain has coroded into a liberal sesspool of insanity..

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    Re: Pelosi: Congressional pay cut undermines dignity of the job

    Quote Originally Posted by Danbury View Post
    Am I sure? Yes. Quite.

    Are you brighter than me? No idea. How is it you know such a thing?

    Would I like my ass handed to me...? Not particularly. But if that's how you Christian-and-moral-values Republicans debate, who am I to stop you? Go for it.

    What Pelosi meant about the food stamps is exactly what she said, that for every dollar spent, 1.79 is created in economic activity. here's why (Pssst... you could have easily looked up the reasoning yourself, but I suspect you didn't really want to know. Not exactly a hallmark trait of bright people).
    Food stamps: The struggle to eat | The Economist

    Your comment about the Guam thing is also not exactly evidence of brightness in that you ascribe being a Democrat to saying a silly thing. Bright people, and even not-so-bright people, are well aware that saying stupid things is a human thing, NOT a political party thing.

    The president's policies have not led us down the path you mention. In fact, the increase in government assistance is a result of the Bush economic collapse/near Depression. Any time there is a massive economic collapse, the need for assistance goes up. In addition, common sense tells bright people that trickle-down economics (AKA Reaganomics/Gush-uponomics) will result in more hardship for the masses since you're redirecting most of the wealth to a tiny percentage of the population. Now presumably you support these economics. Please don't complain about the inevitable consequences.

    In addition, bright people are aware that Obama's spending is actually lower than Bush's. DEmocratic presidents actually spend LESS. Obama has not cut spending levels, but he has leveled them off, DESPITE a severe economic crisis. Biggest expenditures have been the war in Iraq and the tax cuts for very wealthy people, both of which you presumably supported and had not problem with such spending. But spending on improving infrastructure bothers you. go figure. That's a little like splurging on a Rolls Royce while condemning spending on a college education.

    Yes, I'm a Democrat. You got one thing right! Congratulations! I'm impressed.
    no way.. your a lib dem? your post gave you away...it sounded like it was a 5th grader

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    Re: Pelosi: Congressional pay cut undermines dignity of the job

    Look, I am about the last person to say anything good about Pelosi (outside of gay rights).

    But the woman is "worth" at least $35 M. (The 50 Richest Members of Congress — 112th : Roll Call) - see #12.
    The difference in question? - that much money she donates, I am pretty sure, to some charitable fund, ten times over, if only for PR reasons.

    She probably simply meant to say that she was mindful of the members of Congress - on both sides of the isle - who are not rich at all, and basically have to choose between the political career and supporting their families, if their salaries are cut.
    At least in theory, they are trying to do something kinda important there.

    I would never put it in the way she did, but well - she is not exactly the sharpest cheddar in the dairy section...
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    Re: Pelosi: Congressional pay cut undermines dignity of the job

    Quote Originally Posted by Danbury View Post
    Am I sure? Yes. Quite.

    Are you brighter than me? No idea. How is it you know such a thing?

    Would I like my ass handed to me...? Not particularly. But if that's how you Christian-and-moral-values Republicans debate, who am I to stop you? Go for it.

    What Pelosi meant about the food stamps is exactly what she said, that for every dollar spent, 1.79 is created in economic activity. here's why (Pssst... you could have easily looked up the reasoning yourself, but I suspect you didn't really want to know. Not exactly a hallmark trait of bright people).
    Food stamps: The struggle to eat | The Economist

    Your comment about the Guam thing is also not exactly evidence of brightness in that you ascribe being a Democrat to saying a silly thing. Bright people, and even not-so-bright people, are well aware that saying stupid things is a human thing, NOT a political party thing.

    The president's policies have not led us down the path you mention. In fact, the increase in government assistance is a result of the Bush economic collapse/near Depression. Any time there is a massive economic collapse, the need for assistance goes up. In addition, common sense tells bright people that trickle-down economics (AKA Reaganomics/Gush-uponomics) will result in more hardship for the masses since you're redirecting most of the wealth to a tiny percentage of the population. Now presumably you support these economics. Please don't complain about the inevitable consequences.

    In addition, bright people are aware that Obama's spending is actually lower than Bush's. DEmocratic presidents actually spend LESS. Obama has not cut spending levels, but he has leveled them off, DESPITE a severe economic crisis. Biggest expenditures have been the war in Iraq and the tax cuts for very wealthy people, both of which you presumably supported and had not problem with such spending. But spending on improving infrastructure bothers you. go figure. That's a little like splurging on a Rolls Royce while condemning spending on a college education.

    Yes, I'm a Democrat. You got one thing right! Congratulations! I'm impressed.
    See, I told you that I was brighter than you and your'e no Democrat.

    My Grandfather was a Democrat, and he disassociated from the party when they got hijacked by the likes of HOJ.

    Your'e just a partisan highly uninformed individual who's been co-opted into the progressives disaster.

    he thought, being a WWII vet that the modern day Democrat party was a disgusting joke.

    How you guys only care about soldiers lives when a Republicans in office , or when Stephanopolis quit counting dead soldiers when Obama was elected.

    How you only care about shooting victims when they're white children and you can use their death to gain points on a old liberal argument.

    How many kids have been gunned down in Chicago this year ? Last year ?

    How all of the anti-war protest dried up, or that any grown person could be so stupid as to blame Bush for our current disaster when Clinton gave HUD regulatory power to force the GSEs into buying massive toxic debt and when Clinton in 1995 under EXECUTIVE ORDER forced banks to comply with CRA regulations by loaning to people with poor credit.

    No, the massive "depression" is made and mandated by Clintons actions which included allowing for those toxic loans to be securitized in the first place.

    You libs whine about regulations and banking that caused it. Well your'e partly correct. Regulations under HUD and CRA not only caused it, they mandated it.

    Oh and your'e including TARP in Bush's spending ? Obama voted for that and hey, he "leveled off " spending...


    THATS hillarious. 900 billion last quarter alone. Thats like saying I leveled off shoiting bullets into the home intruder at ...90000 bullets.

    He was probably dead after the first 3 or 4.

    It looks like your'e trying to say a Keynesian approach is needed to repair the collapse of the Democrat mandated bubble? You actually believe that borrowing and taking money out of the private sector to put back into the private sector is going to turn the economy around ?

    And at the same time threatening more regulations, higher taxes on producers and then unleashing ObamaCare on companies with more than 50 employees ?

    Not to ention the sur taxes in ObamaCare. You think thats how you grow a private sector economy ?

    This isn't Keynesian, its desperation. Keynes never argued for massive structural debt with no economic growth. You guys have corrupted Keynes theories.

    Youv'e actually bought into the manufactured "eat the rich " lie ? How unfortunate.

    You see Obama's approach has people with real wealth holding onto their cash, instead of pushing it out into the market. They figure only an idiot would invest in Obama's economy and they're right.

    I mean you actually publicly claimed Obama has spent less than Bush...LOL !!

    Do you realize banks are holding onto massive reserves ? Yup. And since 2008 they're getting paid interest on those reserves by the FED. Thats money they by law HAVE to have on hand.

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    Re: Pelosi: Congressional pay cut undermines dignity of the job

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    See, I told you that I was brighter than you and your'e no Democrat.

    My Grandfather was a Democrat, and he disassociated from the party when they got hijacked by the likes of HOJ.

    Your'e just a partisan highly uninformed individual who's been co-opted into the progressives disaster.

    he thought, being a WWII vet that the modern day Democrat party was a disgusting joke.

    How you guys only care about soldiers lives when a Republicans in office , or when Stephanopolis quit counting dead soldiers when Obama was elected.

    How you only care about shooting victims when they're white children and you can use their death to gain points on a old liberal argument.

    How many kids have been gunned down in Chicago this year ? Last year ?

    How all of the anti-war protest dried up, or that any grown person could be so stupid as to blame Bush for our current disaster when Clinton gave HUD regulatory power to force the GSEs into buying massive toxic debt and when Clinton in 1995 under EXECUTIVE ORDER forced banks to comply with CRA regulations by loaning to people with poor credit.

    No, the massive "depression" is made and mandated by Clintons actions which included allowing for those toxic loans to be securitized in the first place.

    You libs whine about regulations and banking that caused it. Well your'e partly correct. Regulations under HUD and CRA not only caused it, they mandated it.

    Oh and your'e including TARP in Bush's spending ? Obama voted for that and hey, he "leveled off " spending...


    THATS hillarious. 900 billion last quarter alone. Thats like saying I leveled off shoiting bullets into the home intruder at ...90000 bullets.

    He was probably dead after the first 3 or 4.

    It looks like your'e trying to say a Keynesian approach is needed to repair the collapse of the Democrat mandated bubble? You actually believe that borrowing and taking money out of the private sector to put back into the private sector is going to turn the economy around ?

    And at the same time threatening more regulations, higher taxes on producers and then unleashing ObamaCare on companies with more than 50 employees ?

    Not to ention the sur taxes in ObamaCare. You think thats how you grow a private sector economy ?

    This isn't Keynesian, its desperation. Keynes never argued for massive structural debt with no economic growth. You guys have corrupted Keynes theories.

    Youv'e actually bought into the manufactured "eat the rich " lie ? How unfortunate.

    You see Obama's approach has people with real wealth holding onto their cash, instead of pushing it out into the market. They figure only an idiot would invest in Obama's economy and they're right.

    I mean you actually publicly claimed Obama has spent less than Bush...LOL !!

    Do you realize banks are holding onto massive reserves ? Yup. And since 2008 they're getting paid interest on those reserves by the FED. Thats money they by law HAVE to have on hand.

    You're quite ill informed.

    And now you're saying I'm no Democrat? Before you said I am a Democrat.

    Why don't YOU make up YOUR mind as to what I am, and I'll fix my registration, since you clearly know what I am better than I know what I am.

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