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    Re: Secret funding helped build vast network of climate denial thinktanks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, and if these hypothisis' are true, what effect will taxing my use of electricity, or gas to high heaven, while still allowing me to use it have on this? Nothing. But a picking of my pocket.
    1) Not all electricity comes from fossil fuels. Nuclear, wind, and solar don't emit CO2 during operations.
    2) The revenue can be put towards building electrical infrastructure for the above.
    3) Consumption of a product actually is affected by its price.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Secret funding helped build vast network of climate denial thinktanks

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    True. But no one ever went you can't trust Einstein, his studies are funded by such and such company that allegedly cares about physics(the way many made global warming fairy tale believes act as though big oil give a rats ass about global warming and climate change in general,as though billions of people are just going to stop using oil if global warming is caused by people instead of nature) or his studies are funded by people who believe the same **** he does as though that is somehow a disqualifier. But studies that contradict the man made global warming fairy tale religion are dismissed as biased, even though all pro man made global warming fairy tale studies are funded by people who believe in the man made global warming fairy tale religion.
    Bad science is dismissed for being bad science. Good science isn't dismissed. Take a look at skeptics like Svensmark or Friis-Christensen. They aren't just dismissed.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Secret funding helped build vast network of climate denial thinktanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    1) Not all electricity comes from fossil fuels. Nuclear, wind, and solar don't emit CO2 during operations.
    2) The revenue can be put towards building electrical infrastructure for the above.
    3) Consumption of a product actually is affected by its price.
    Hydroelectric (from rivers and tides) is clean too.
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    Re: Secret funding helped build vast network of climate denial thinktanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    1) Not all electricity comes from fossil fuels. Nuclear, wind, and solar don't emit CO2 during operations.
    However, none of these are developed enough to take the place of our traditional energy. And the outlook is that none of the will be in our lifetimes. So, choking off access to traditional energy in the hopes that another will magically over night be able to take its place before we are able to account for reliability, or stability is silly.

    2) The revenue can be put towards building electrical infrastructure for the above.
    Cart before the horse no? So, can I assume this is an admission that the current pricing of things like gas, electric, deisel fuel is all a tax for building what you think will be the fuel of the future? Don't you see how backwards this is, and how a policy like this is hurting the poor, and middle classes? Food is higher, goods are higher, poverty is up, and for what? So you libs can tax the living crap out of us on a hypothetical maybe? That's crap.

    3) Consumption of a product actually is affected by its price.
    And there is that control aspect...I wish liberals would stay the hell out of my life, and what I do.
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    Re: Secret funding helped build vast network of climate denial thinktanks

    It seems pretty clear those who head up the study of AGW are predisposed to it's existence.

    Really, NOTHING leaves this earth and overtime is recycled and re-used.

    The water you drink, Recycled, the molecules of your body, Recycled, the O2 you breathe, recycled the Co2 you exhale, recycled.

    Hell on a cellular level no one is over 10 years old give or take.

    Your not going to convince the majority of society when you combine "objective" data with a carbon selling scam that the world is in danger.

    Even if we could damage it it would be short term.

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    Re: Secret funding helped build vast network of climate denial thinktanks

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Hydroelectric (from rivers and tides) is clean too.
    And it works
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    Re: Secret funding helped build vast network of climate denial thinktanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    And it works

    OMG! That's resource diversion.....Why, you might kill the 4 pedal, spotted daisy! We can't let you do that.....
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    Re: Secret funding helped build vast network of climate denial thinktanks

    I wonder if George Carlin was on the payroll....?

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    Re: Secret funding helped build vast network of climate denial thinktanks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    However, none of these are developed enough to take the place of our traditional energy. And the outlook is that none of the will be in our lifetimes. So, choking off access to traditional energy in the hopes that another will magically over night be able to take its place before we are able to account for reliability, or stability is silly.



    Cart before the horse no? So, can I assume this is an admission that the current pricing of things like gas, electric, deisel fuel is all a tax for building what you think will be the fuel of the future? Don't you see how backwards this is, and how a policy like this is hurting the poor, and middle classes? Food is higher, goods are higher, poverty is up, and for what? So you libs can tax the living crap out of us on a hypothetical maybe? That's crap.



    And there is that control aspect...I wish liberals would stay the hell out of my life, and what I do.
    Ahh, I forget sometimes that conservatives tend to be absolutist thinkers, so that any outside influence counts as "control."

    If that's your belief, every single aspect of your life is already controlled by big scary government. In fact, your consumption of gasoline is already under government control because there's gasoline taxes. Your choice in airline flights is controlled because there's a tax on airline tickets. Your very employment is under government control because there are income and payroll taxes. It works the other way too. You get tax breaks for mortgage payments, having children, etc. Therefore the government controls how many children you have, right?

    If you think nuclear power isn't ready to take over baseline generation, I don't know what to tell you. Because you don't live on the same planet I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Secret funding helped build vast network of climate denial thinktanks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I wonder if George Carlin was on the payroll....?

    I don't give a crap what happens to penguins. I give a crap what happens to corn, because I eat corn.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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