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    Re: Cruise ship "dead in the water" after towline breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    and you thought your week was bad.
    No scheit... no pun intended.

    Ok, just a little.
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    Re: Cruise ship "dead in the water" after towline breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    For that and other reasons, I do not do cruise ships.

    I feel sorry for the poor folks on that ship.
    after having a recurring dream of drowning in a shipwreck in the 1600s, I decided to never set foot on an ocean vessel.

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    Re: Cruise ship "dead in the water" after towline breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    after having a recurring dream of drowning in a shipwreck in the 1600s, I decided to never set foot on an ocean vessel.
    The idea makes me ill . . . don't even need a nightmare. But it's the other things: the populated atmosphere for one that makes me just loath the idea. I don't want to hang out with my entire town just to - what - get motion sickness?

    I don't get the appeal at all.
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    Re: Cruise ship "dead in the water" after towline breaks

    Having opinions all over the map is a good sign of a person capable of autonomous thinking. Felix -2011

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    Re: Cruise ship "dead in the water" after towline breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    The idea makes me ill . . . don't even need a nightmare. But it's the other things: the populated atmosphere for one that makes me just loath the idea. I don't want to hang out with my entire town just to - what - get motion sickness?

    I don't get the appeal at all.
    I suppose the appeal is the idea that a wealthy lifestyle can be within your reach; endless food, booze, luxuries, and interesting foreign places.

    however, I'm kind of with you on this. I see it as a chance to share strangers' germs on a piece of steel that is barely floating in a dangerous ocean. **** that. I can go to the casino and get a similar experience without risking my life.

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    Re: Cruise ship "dead in the water" after towline breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Bingo.

    Sorry Maggie, it's gonna happen.
    The only Bingo is B-12.

    When you are a passenger on a cruise ship, international law is rigid in its protection of cruise lines. That PLUS the fact that when you buys yer ticket, you automatically accept a very rigid contract limiting a cruise line's liability unless egregious misconduct can be proven. Mechanical breakdowns certainly don't fall under egregious misconduct.

    For cruises that do not involve a United States port, the contract states, any litigation must be brought in Genoa, Italy, and be governed by Italian law. But when it comes to liability, the contract says the company can take advantage of any limits set by international treaties or the laws of the United States, which are very generous to owners of vessels. If there is a conflict among the patchwork of laws and treaties regarding liability, it says, “the Carrier shall be entitled to invoke whichever provisions provide the greatest limitations and immunities to the Carrier.”
    I don't know if the cruise line involved a U.S. port, but even if it did, maritime law is very different from the bull**** civil liabilities we impute on land.
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    Re: Cruise ship "dead in the water" after towline breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    The idea makes me ill . . . don't even need a nightmare. But it's the other things: the populated atmosphere for one that makes me just loath the idea. I don't want to hang out with my entire town just to - what - get motion sickness?

    I don't get the appeal at all.
    I know the cruise liners are huge but you are still trapped on this boat with the same group of people 24 hours a day. The whole idea of the cruise industry is to get you on aboard and try to shake every last nickel out of your pocket.

    I just don't see the attraction.

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    Re: Cruise ship "dead in the water" after towline breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The only Bingo is B-12.

    When you are a passenger on a cruise ship, international law is rigid in its protection of cruise lines. That PLUS the fact that when you buys yer ticket, you automatically accept a very rigid contract limiting a cruise line's liability unless egregious misconduct can be proven. Mechanical breakdowns certainly don't fall under egregious misconduct.

    I don't know if the cruise line involved a U.S. port, but even if it did, maritime law is very different from the bull**** civil liabilities we impute on land.
    I doubt the mechanical breakdown will be the lawsuit's point. It will be the conditions, lost wages, etc., Monday thru Thursday.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
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    Re: Cruise ship "dead in the water" after towline breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    I know the cruise liners are huge but you are still trapped on this boat with the same group of people 24 hours a day. The whole idea of the cruise industry is to get you on aboard and try to shake every last nickel out of your pocket.

    I just don't see the attraction.
    You've obviously never been on a cruise. Yep, you're right, though, same 4,000 people every day for seven days. What a bore. During those seven days, you might have 3 or 4 ports of call. Guided tours to Mayan ruins, climb a pyramid, skeet shoot off the bow, masquerade parties, fabulous shopping, mostly duty-free, sun bathing on deck, gourmet food available 24 hours a day, gambling casino, five-star entertainment every night, massages, Salsa lessons, yoga, pilates, open-mike night, comedy club, nightclubs, themed bars, IMAX theater on deck, complete fitness center, rope climbing, special programs to keep kids entertained morning 'til night . . . boooooring.
    The devil whispered in my ear, "You cannot withstand the storm." I whispered back, "I am ​the storm."

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    Re: Cruise ship "dead in the water" after towline breaks

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You've obviously never been on a cruise. Yep, you're right, though, same 4,000 people every day for seven days. What a bore. During those seven days, you might have 3 or 4 ports of call. Guided tours to Mayan ruins, climb a pyramid, skeet shoot off the bow, masquerade parties, fabulous shopping, mostly duty-free, sun bathing on deck, gourmet food available 24 hours a day, gambling casino, five-star entertainment every night, massages, Salsa lessons, yoga, pilates, open-mike night, comedy club, nightclubs, themed bars, IMAX theater on deck, complete fitness center, rope climbing, special programs to keep kids entertained morning 'til night . . . boooooring.
    I went on a cruise to Cozumel and decided not to take any of their tours. I got out, rented a moped, and toured the island by myself. It was great. I went away from the big city that most people went to on the island and found a Rasta bar by the Caribbean Sea. Dos Equis were a buck each, and the view was great. When I got back, all I heard was complaints about the tours being a rip off for costing them 100 bucks or more a person.

    If you go on a cruise and dock somewhere...don't fall for the tour scams...rent a vehicle and go your own path. It makes for a much more memorable experience
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