Adagio
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Il. Politicians in jail....
"Governor of Illinois Rod Blagojevich (D) was charged with conspiracy to commit mail, wire fraud and solicitation of bribery. He was impeached and removed from office by 59-0 votes of the Illinois Senate.(January 28, 2009)[74] On August 17, 2010, he was convicted on just one of 24 federal charges.[75] In a retrial in 2011, he was found guilty on 17 other counts and sentenced to 14 years in prison.[76][77][78][79]
Illinois Governor George H. Ryan (R) illegal sale of government licenses and contracts as Secretary of State and as Governor. He was convicted of 18 counts of corruption. (2006) [80]
State Representative James DeLeo (D) caught in the "Operation Greylord" investigation of corruption in Cook County. He was indicted by a federal grand jury for taking bribes and negotiated guilty plea on a misdemeanor tax offense, and was placed on probation (1992)
State Representative Joe Kotlarz (D) convicted and sentenced to jail for theft and conspiracy for pocketing in about $200,000 for a sale of state land to a company he once served as legal counsel (1997)
State Senator Bruce A. Farley (D) sentenced to 18 months in prison for mail fraud (1999)
State Senator John A. D’Arco Jr. (D) served about 3 years in prison for bribery and extortion (1995)
Illinois Governor Daniel Walker (D) was convicted of improprieties stemming from loans from a Savings and Loan. He served 18 months in prison. (1987) [188][188] The First American Savings & Loan Association of Oak Brook was declared insolvent with a deficit of $23 million[189]
Illinois Attorney General William J. Scott served from 1968 until 1982 when he was convicted of tax fraud and sentenced to a year in prison.[190]
Illinois Governor Otto Kerner, Jr. (D) After serving two terms, Kerner was appointed to the Seventh District Court when he was convicted on 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury and related charges. (1973) [197] He was sentenced to three years in federal prison. Faced with impeachment, he resigned his position on the federal bench on July 22, 1974.[197][198]
Illinois State Auditor (comptroller) Orville Hodge (R) embezzled more than $6 million and was indicted for on 54 counts including conspiracy, forgery and embezzling. He was sentenced to 12 to 15 years in prison.[206][207]"
List of American state and local politicians convicted of crimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yeah, real bunch of angles those Illinois politicians.....:roll:
Beautiful example of inductive reasoning. Make a claim, and then list a bunch of cases to support your claim. And, That makes it true? Unfortunately, no.e Inductive reasoning NEVER proves a theory. For the simple reason that you can't possibly know all of the Illinois politicians. What you have is a general statement. But not a true statement. You're making a Sweeping Generalization.
Example
(1) Children should be seen and not heard.
(2) Little Wolfgang Amadeus is a child.
Therefore:
(3) Little Wolfgang Amadeus shouldn’t be heard.
A deductive syllogism would look like this
Premiss 1. All Illinois politicians are corrupt
Premiss 2. Obama is an Illinois politician
Therefore:
conclusion: Obama is corrupt.
That would be infallibly true, IF, and only if the premises' are true. Premiss 1 is not a true statement. Premiss 2 is true. But the conclusion doesn't logically follow. You have to assume the truth of the 1st premiss, which can't be demonstrated as true. The samples that you offer are too small in comparison to all the politicians in Illinois. You're offering a Sweeping Generalization. Which is a logical fallacy.
Deductive reasoning, also called deductive logic, is the process of starting out with one or more general statements and examining the possibilities to reach a logically certain conclusion. Deductive reasoning involves using one or more premises that are accepted and true to reach a conclusion that is also true.
Inductive reasoning is the polar opposite of deductive reasoning and is not generally accepted in science. While deduction begins with the general and ends with the specific, induction takes an idea from the specific to the general. This goes against the principles of the scientific method.
Even if all of the premises are true in a statement, inductive reasoning allows for the conclusion to be false. Here’s an example: Seventy-five percent of humans have brown eyes. John is a human. Therefore, John has brown eyes. That logic doesn’t work in the scientific method because it would be false 25 percent of the time.
Deductive reasoning involves a hierarchy of statements or truths. In the process of deductive reasoning, scientists start with a limited number of simple statements or assumptions and build to more complex ones as the scientific method progresses.
Another form of deductive reasoning is the law of syllogism, (shown above) in which the conclusion is supported by two premises. This form of deductive reasoning typically takes on the format All A is C; all B is A; therefore all B is C.
So...in conclusion, the list of corrupt politicians in Illinois which you cited has nothing to do with Obama, unless perhaps you could prove otherwise? I don't think that case has been made. So your list isn't relevant regarding Obama.