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Excellent post! We'll all be watching to see what happens next....

Polgara, I just received your personal e-mail through my profile. No, I didn't put you on the ignore list, no one is on my ignore list.

There must be another reason why you can't post a response to my post.

I did send you a personal message and it seemed not to go through. Here's what it said.

>" The following errors occurred with your submission
polgara has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space. "<

If you have a lot of messages stored, delete them.

Maybe one of the mods can look in to why you can't respond to my post ?

Until this problem is resolved, I'll just have to keep accepting your "likes."
 
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This is a really stupid thread. It's just an excuse for a bunch of mindless rant for Obama haters.

Perhaps it's just a case of balancing out the recent thread about Fox News, that Obama lovers used as an excuse for their "mindless rants."

See how fair that is? Good for Debatepolitics, and their policies of being non-partisan! :thumbs:
 
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Good thing we have minimum wage laws then or we'd all still be getting 85¢ an hour. You can't fill your car up for $7.25 or $9 either.

I was refering to 85 cents an hour times a 40 hour week because that would give me a gross of $34.00 but it takes around $40 for a fill up. Since I only do that every 2 weeks I suppose technically I was wrong now that I think about it. $56 a month won't quite cover all my other expenses though so I'll have to move to Alaska where the state gives me a check too.

Nonetheless, I would not oppose a $10 per hour minimum wage, but no more than that.
 
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How exactly is he doing that when none of his legeslation can get through the house without undergoing a grueling battle

where the budget?....
 
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Thanks!!! for your response. :) Happy to know we're still friends. I try to keep my messages deleted, honest. AP said I seemed to be functiong as a "facilitator," cause I do receive loads of PMs from some of the other newbies. Since I don't know enough, I usually ask AP, which of course means four messages...receive, ask AP, get reply from him, then reply to original... on each PM matter. As we all become more familiar with this site, they have lessened, though. I will ask the mod what's happening.... :)
 
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You think BIG like tankfulls. I think small like gallons.:)

You can't live on $56? What are you? Some kind of high-roller?:roll:

I thought the $9 proposed was fairly reasonable. Dog knows I find plenty to disagree with but every once in a while by sheer accident (and volume), they propose something that makes sense.




I was refering to 85 cents an hour times a 40 hour week because that would give me a gross of $34.00 but it takes around $40 for a fill up. Since I only do that every 2 weeks I suppose technically I was wrong now that I think about it. $56 a month won't quite cover all my other expenses though so I'll have to move to Alaska where the state gives me a check too.

Nonetheless, I would not oppose a $10 per hour minimum wage, but no more than that.
 
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There's no business like show business. Did you notice how robotic that applause was? Makes you wonder if they aren't all androids.


Very well stated, and you speak for many of us. Also, BHO repeatedly shouting "Take a Vote" was drama at its finest...and he certainly seemed to enjoy the attention it got. Perhaps he should speak to Harry Reid about actually bringing everything UP for a vote? Radical, I know, but I wondered....
 
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Perhaps it's just a case of balancing out the recent thread about Fox News, that Obama lovers used as an excuse for their "mindless rants."

See how fair that is? Good for Debatepolitics, and their policies of being non-partisan! :thumbs:



When both (all, or either side) sides stop expressing their opinion, the USA will stop being the USA.

It would be a mighty dull world if everyone agreed on everything all the time.

But once in a while we do need to decide what we are going to do, one way or another.




"I may not always agree with what you say, but I will always defend your right to say it." Of course I may sometimes ignore what you say.
 
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There's no business like show business. Did you notice how robotic that applause was? Makes you wonder if they aren't all androids.

You know, you may be right!

Since no one in DC seems to be responsible for anything, I'm beginning to suspect aliens have taken over down there! :)
 
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That is kind of terrible that speeches are remembered for the silliest things, but then again why wasn't that stool and water right below the camera so he could reach down while still talking and barely miss a beat to drink.

staged by the same fellow who thought clint eastwood lecturing to an empty chair would be effective
 
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How exactly is he doing that when none of his legeslation can get through the house without undergoing a grueling battle

So you think we have a dictator whose policies are "my way or the highway?" What policies has Obama proposed that is based upon the foundation upon which our economy was built? You think promoting class warfare, penalizing individual wealth creation, proposing a one size fits all Federal healthcare program, refusal to implement any of the Bowles Simpson proposals, demonizing Ryan and Republicans at every turn is good leadership?

When you have a divided govt. it takes leadership to accomplish anything and Obama lacks any basic leadership skills. He is a former community agitator who believes the govt. has the answers even though no where in the world has a liberal govt. been successful. High debt, high unemployment, low economic growth aren't indicative of good economic policy and positive economic results.
 
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Obama proposed several. Got shot down in congress because it had "too much spending"

Obama's budgets didn't get one Democratic vote. What does that tell you? He claims he has cut spending and yet you say they had "too much spending" in those budgets. Which is it?
 
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So you think we have a dictator whose policies are "my way or the highway?" What policies has Obama proposed that is based upon the foundation upon which our economy was built? You think promoting class warfare, penalizing individual wealth creation, proposing a one size fits all Federal healthcare program, refusal to implement any of the Bowles Simpson proposals, demonizing Ryan and Republicans at every turn is good leadership?

When you have a divided govt. it takes leadership to accomplish anything and Obama lacks any basic leadership skills. He is a former community agitator who believes the govt. has the answers even though no where in the world has a liberal govt. been successful. High debt, high unemployment, low economic growth aren't indicative of good economic policy and positive economic results.

What ruplicans want is to cut social programs, gut social sucurity, Medicare and Medicaid. What republicans want is for surrender everything they stand for. Obamas may be the president, but all legeslative initiatives of real significance start in congress
 
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Obama's budgets didn't get one Democratic vote. What does that tell you? He claims he has cut spending and yet you say they had "too much spending" in those budgets. Which is it?

There no votes on some of Obamas budgets because they were shelved or pidgeonholed by the speaker of the house.
 
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What ruplicans want is to cut social programs, gut social sucurity, Medicare and Medicaid. What republicans want is for surrender everything they stand for. Obamas may be the president, but all legeslative initiatives of real significance start in congress

Right out of the liberal playbook and wrong. Prove that Republicans want to gut SS, Medicare, and Medicaid. It does appear that Obama has certainly an uninformed supporter in you. I suggest a basic history course and find out what built this great country and I assure you it wasn't massive expansion of entitlemen programs and govt. dependence which is at a record high under Obama. Our Founders never supported a massive central govt and Europe has shown that the entitlement state will be buried under its own weight.

I am waiting for the economic policies that Obama has proposed that would have helped the private sector and improved the economy?
 
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There no votes on some of Obamas budgets because they were shelved or pidgeonholed by the speaker of the house.

Wrong, Obama budgets were never shelved by the House and no budget can be filibustered. Better stop believing what you are reading from the left and get the actual facts
 
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Right out of the liberal playbook and wrong. Prove that Republicans want to gut SS, Medicare, and Medicaid. It does appear that Obama has certainly an uninformed supporter in you. I suggest a basic history course and find out what built this great country and I assure you it wasn't massive expansion of entitlemen programs and govt. dependence which is at a record high under Obama. Our Founders never supported a massive central govt and Europe has shown that the entitlement state will be buried under its own weight.

I am waiting for the economic policies that Obama has proposed that would have helped the private sector and improved the economy?

Austerity is as effective at helping the economy as blood letting was at curing disease. We are cutting too much too fast with nothing to increase revenue, to what end? You can't cut all the debt we have simply by removing spending, it will take years to reduce the debt.
 
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Obama proposed several. Got shot down in congress because it had "too much spending"

Obama budget defeated 99-0 in Senate - Washington Times

Austerity is as effective at helping the economy as blood letting was at curing disease. We are cutting too much too fast with nothing to increase revenue, to what end? You can't cut all the debt we have simply by removing spending, it will take years to reduce the debt.

Cutting the rate and percentages of spending increases is not "austerity". Try again
 
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You have to focus on water because you can't handle the fact his speech blew Obama's out of the water

I see what you did there...
 
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Are you Joe Biden's speech writer? You say you are better off, but then rattle off campaign talking-points from 2012. LOL...

No. I'm not. They aren't talking points. They're facts. I know facts aren't part of the Conservative ideology, but we tend to think they work better then ideas that can't demonstrate what makes them true.
 
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in realiity the economy is in shambles....the USA has been downgraded... thats reality...its not about me or you..

The USA was downgraded because of the Teabaggers complete insanity. They decided to take the country to the brink of default and Standard and Poors said that was the reason. It's YOU guys that are wrecking this thing. You did your damage for 8 years and now that it's turning around you can't stand it. Sorry, but you lost. Your ideas have been rejected. That's reality. Now get out of the way and let the country move forward.:2wave:
 
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