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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Thanks for proving my point, 1.4 trillion dollars over 12 years equals what per year, 116 billion per year so deduct that from the 1.4 trillion dollar Obama deficits.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

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    All previous Presidents since Carter
    The snowball started its trip down the slippery slope with the gipper.
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    To paraphrase(adjusted for inflation) one of the last REAL Republicans, Everett Dirksen,not these phonies that hijacked the party. $613 billion here, $613 billion there, pretty soon were talking about real money.
    Get a math teacher to explain to you what cutting 613 billion dollars over the last 12 years would do to the national debt of 16.6 trillion

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    You claim this:


    Then in the SAME post:


    OH THE HYPOCRISY!

    They have no defense. that's the whole thing. That's why they always attack. They have to. They can't defend their ideology.
    So you regard and explanation of what you're doing, as personal attack?? Oh the outrage! So sensitive. Your tactics shall not be questioned, lest they be seen as an attack. Grow up junior.

    They're what are called Identity Philosophers…What a classic Putz McCain is. Party before country.
    That's what an Identity Philosopher is. He puts loyalty to the group ahead of everything which is exactly what McCain did. It's captured on videa from an interview on Fox Noise. That makes him a putz in my view. Party over country. My comment on the Republican caucus is not a personal attack on any poster including you. It's an apt description of the Republican mentality of group over country.
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    The snowball started its trip down the slippery slope with the gipper.
    Yep, the Gipper added 1.7 trillion dollars in 8 years, gee to have those deficits today. Obama almost has the "Gipper" 8 years deficits yearly.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Get a math teacher to explain to you what cutting 613 billion dollars over the last 12 years would do to the national debt of 16.6 trillion
    According to a Brown University study, the wars and their ripple effects have cost us at least $3.7 trillion.AND...inquiring minds want to know…where/what was the additional unknown amount that they spent from their $5.2 trillion base budget?
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    sigh. At no point did McCain say HE felt that way. He said some of his colleagues did. He didnt go against just Bush he went against his party on a variety of issues. McCain himself deals with that blowback quite often from his decisions.

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    At NO point does McCain say HE feels that way but he attributes it to his colleagues. But then again McCain has voiced a lot of BS to get headlines in the media. Maybe hes past that, but I wouldnt put money on it.
    ....Right, it's not McCain at all. He's just speaking for the other guys. Despite the fact that McCain can't stand the guy for going against the war and McCains beloved "surge" which he points out. Or the fact that Hagel backed Obama against him in his run for president. McCain certainly doesn't feel that way but suggests it's the others?? And you believe this??

    He didnt go against just Bush he went against his party on a variety of issues.
    Which is exactly why I called McCain and the others, Identity Philosophers. The only value that matters to them is loyalty to the group. It's not that truth isn't a value. It's just one of many, and not the most important one. When it comes to truth or loyalty to the group, it's loyalty to the group that matters most. That means that the truth is always subjugated to the group's Identity and that identity is wrapped in their ideology. The ideology is always more important than the truth. ALWAYS!
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Thanks for proving my point, 1.4 trillion dollars over 12 years equals what per year, 116 billion per year so deduct that from the 1.4 trillion dollar Obama deficits.
    Conservative math is so funny!!! :-)
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Conservative math is so funny!!! :-)
    I believe it’s called the law of rush. Up is down, down is up.
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Data from the U.S. Treasury can never be manipulated, it is what it is just like your bank account is what it is. I use BEA.gov, BLS.giv, and the Treasury data, not CBO, not leftwing sites. All my data can be verified but why would you ever waste your time when it is so easy to buy what you are told by leftwing partisans who have no problem making you look foolish.

    The very concept of conservatism is based upon human behavior and human achievement. It is all about accepting personal responsibility where you spend in the name of compassion but actually get compassionate results, results that actual solve problems. Not once have I ever heard a liberal blame the individual for poor choices made and for personal mistakes. It is always blame somone else for individual failures.

    Love the personal attack, which is normally the case with liberals when they cannot refute actual data. Wonder what it is about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?
    The very concept of conservatism is based upon human behavior and human achievement. It is all about accepting personal responsibility where you spend in the name of compassion but actually get compassionate results, results that actual solve problems..
    Is it now? What do you base that on? According to who? Where did this concept come from? You're telling me that conservatism is based on something. It's a concept based on a bunch of other concepts or values, but you haven't told me what those concepts or values are based on? Obviously having a basis is important to conservatives. So what is the basis for these bases? Can you tell me?? I'd like to hear it, because it makes no sense.

    Love the personal attack,
    Did you? Good. I saved it up just for you. Anybody so filled with hate that he would suggest that the president and the White House were cheering the body count of children as it went up...deserves much more than I offered for you. You actually think that this man with two kids of his own, wasn't horrified by the slaughter of 20 children, and that he was actually cheering the body count?? You're a disgusting excuse for a human being and you have a sick mind.
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