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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    They are now. They weren't before and you know that. They were off the books and not included in our budget or deficit. Now they are.
    As already noted, they were included in the debt every year. Not any different than Clinton's "surplus" not being a surplus when one looks at the actual debt by year.

    Obama has now increased the debt more in 4 years than Bush did in 8. And he sure as **** ain't done, now is he ?

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    As already noted, they were included in the debt every year. Not any different than Clinton's "surplus" not being a surplus when one looks at the actual debt by year.

    Obama has now increased the debt more in 4 years than Bush did in 8. And he sure as **** ain't done, now is he ?
    Makes you wonder what it is about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty that allows people to ignore reality and buy leftwing right. Most don't have a clue as to what on budget and off budget means and that both make up the yearly deficit that is added to the debt. Far too many liberals simply cannot accept the fact that the liberal elite and media lie to them daily and even when proven wrong they continue to perpetuate the lies.

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It really is sad that you are so committed to liberalism that you cannot admit you are wrong. Being off budget doesn't mean it isn't included in the debt. You simply have no idea what a fool liberalism is making out of you.
    Of course it's included in the debt. NOW! But it was not factored into that our budget deficit until it was put back on the books. If you weren't so committed to your ideology then you'd be able to understand that.

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    Then the Bush/Cheney era happened. Republicans took a massive surplus and turned it into an even more massive deficit, adding the costs of two wars, two tax cuts, Medicare expansion, and a Wall Street bailout to the national charge card. Obama instantly included the money spent on the wars into the debt count, thus increasing it dramatically.

    Not only that but Obama retroactively took debt from 2001-2007 from the wars that was never counted in the Bush years and ADDED it to his balance.
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    Of course it's included in the debt. NOW! But it was not factored into that our budget deficit until it was put back on the books. If you weren't so committed to your ideology then you'd be able to understand that.

    Attachment 67142793

    Then the Bush/Cheney era happened. Republicans took a massive surplus and turned it into an even more massive deficit, adding the costs of two wars, two tax cuts, Medicare expansion, and a Wall Street bailout to the national charge card. Obama instantly included the money spent on the wars into the debt count, thus increasing it dramatically.

    Not only that but Obama retroactively took debt from 2001-2007 from the wars that was never counted in the Bush years and ADDED it to his balance.
    Would you show us the last time the debt of the Nation was actually decreased? HINT: You'll need to go back more than 50 years...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    Of course it's included in the debt. NOW! But it was not factored into that our budget deficit until it was put back on the books. If you weren't so committed to your ideology then you'd be able to understand that.

    Attachment 67142793

    Then the Bush/Cheney era happened. Republicans took a massive surplus and turned it into an even more massive deficit, adding the costs of two wars, two tax cuts, Medicare expansion, and a Wall Street bailout to the national charge card. Obama instantly included the money spent on the wars into the debt count, thus increasing it dramatically.

    Not only that but Obama retroactively took debt from 2001-2007 from the wars that was never counted in the Bush years and ADDED it to his balance.
    You have no idea what you are talking about and have no concept of debt or deficits. It is tough dealing with kids so brainwashed that they cannot admit when wrong. The money that was spent off budget is still part of the deficit for the year it occurred and always have been. You really need to do better research and stop buying what Obama and his surrogates tell you.

    Further you really need to straighten out the bank account of the United States because that doesn't show a surplus. It was a projected surplus that the CBO projected based upon assumptions, assumptions that ignored the Clinton recession and of course had no idea we would have 9/11 which the GAO says cost over a trillion dollars.

    Obama retroactively did nothing to the debt which again shows you have no idea what you are talking about which makes you a typical Obama supporter.

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    Of course it's included in the debt. NOW! But it was not factored into that our budget deficit until it was put back on the books. If you weren't so committed to your ideology then you'd be able to understand that.

    Attachment 67142793

    Then the Bush/Cheney era happened. Republicans took a massive surplus and turned it into an even more massive deficit, adding the costs of two wars, two tax cuts, Medicare expansion, and a Wall Street bailout to the national charge card. Obama instantly included the money spent on the wars into the debt count, thus increasing it dramatically.

    Not only that but Obama retroactively took debt from 2001-2007 from the wars that was never counted in the Bush years and ADDED it to his balance.
    Do you realize you are arguing against the Bush not-included-in-the-deficit spending, but was included in the debt, while then argung for Clinton doing the exact same thing ?

    Stop being so liberal ! LOL ... priceless !

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    Of course it's included in the debt. NOW! But it was not factored into that our
    budget deficit until it was put back on the books. If you weren't so committed to your ideology then you'd be able to understand that.

    Attachment 67142793

    Then the Bush/Cheney era happened. Republicans took a massive surplus and turned it into an even more massive deficit, adding the costs of two wars, two tax cuts, Medicare expansion, and a Wall Street bailout to the national charge card. Obama instantly included the money spent on the wars into the debt count, thus increasing it dramatically.

    Not only that but Obama retroactively took debt from 2001-2007 from the wars that was never counted in the Bush years and ADDED it to his balance.
    Wall Street Bail out ? You mean TARP ?

    Obama voted for TARP. And he should have. It was to bailout Investment banks who bought bundled toxic mortgages from the GSEs...

    The Democrat subprime mandated bubble is what initiated the 2008 Collapse and is what you people call "the Bush Meltdown".

    Basically your response to a collapsing economy that was mandated by Democrat policies that gave CRA and HUD regulatory control over lending institutions and the GSEs and 8 years of calling Bush every name under the sun including "idiot" and incompetent was to elect an actual incompetent.

    And now you feel the need publicly to mitigate the disasterous effects of the incompetent you and people like you elected.

    Failure followed by really dumb decisions followed by lies and blame.

    That sums up the last 20 years of Democrat activity. Its quite the pedigree.

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Wall Street Bail out ? You mean TARP ?

    Obama voted for TARP. And he should have. It was to bailout Investment banks who bought bundled toxic mortgages from the GSEs...

    The Democrat subprime mandated bubble is what initiated the 2008 Collapse and is what you people call "the Bush Meltdown".

    Basically your response to a collapsing economy that was mandated by Democrat policies that gave CRA and HUD regulatory control over lending institutions and the GSEs and 8 years of calling Bush every name under the sun including "idiot" and incompetent was to elect an actual incompetent.

    And now you feel the need publicly to mitigate the disasterous effects of the incompetent you and people like you elected.

    Failure followed by really dumb decisions followed by lies and blame.

    That sums up the last 20 years of Democrat activity. Its quite the pedigree.
    TARP was a loan that mostly was paid back, wonder where that payback went? I am sure Obama used it to pay down that Bush debt, didn't he?

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    TARP was a loan that mostly was paid back, wonder where that payback
    went? I am sure Obama used it to pay down that Bush debt, didn't he?
    Remember when Obama.went around crying about the debt he inherited and people like adagio got all goose~bumpy and spread that nonsense all over the internet ?

    Without realizing Obama voted for it, the debt that was "inherited" ?

    Lol....Liberals. They might have a chance if only the other half of the Country was as susceptible to the Progressive Cancer as they were.

    It's why they're on the defensive, they convinced enough people but now those people are getting impatient and they're realizing that they were sold a bill of goods.

    Its the old bait and switch from the snake oil salesman Obama.

    They can't say we didn't try to warn them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyRux View Post
    In my comment, I did acknowledge the fact that older people fill positions of minimum wage, because it makes no sense for an employer to pay someone that much with absolutely no skill.
    Just how ignorant do you have to be to make a stupid comment like this? Do you really think older people have "absolutely no skill?"

    This should disqualify you from calling anyone ignorant for the rest of your life!

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