Extremism: A threat at home, a threat abroad.
If you don't want to battle and want to stay exclusivley on topic then stop with veiled insinuations and direct attacks on peoples intelligence because if you do it to me I'm firing right back and I have plenty of ammunition.
As for your arguments if I see youv'e said something incorrect, lied, made generalizations , inconsistent statements or just parroted nonsensical talking points I'm going to call you out on it.
Its the point of the Site " debate politics ". If you want to make it personal then that's up to you.
But about that post I wrote. Long wasn't it ? And all kinds of awesome.
But apparently I posted in the wrong thread according to obvious.
Hell it was 1 am and I was on my 7th drink so hey, even I make the occasional mistake.
You Libs have made a curious choice, to defend the undefendable in the midst of a failing Presidency. But it's getting old as you rely on the one and most pathetic excuse time and time again to mitigate the suffering of the American middle Class.
So, you continue with your " Bush blame " andb I'll continue to expose your desperation.
Take away the Feds pumping and the DOW will drop like a rock as bond interest climbs and people bail into metals.
Wait people are doing that already.
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Republicans, of course, are trying real hard to once again confuse and convolute the issue here. You've once again turned another issue, i.e., raising the minimum wage, from "how it would impact business growth and expansion" to "teenagers, low-skilled workers aren't heads of household and therefore don't increase the level household incomes" without realizing that many of these low-skilled workers ARE single-parents and therefore ARE heads of their household or hard working college students trying desperately to make ends meet while they work full time while also holding down and full class load.
Again, the Party needs to stop being stupid and starting thinking beyond its Party ideology.
Put down the Koolaid and see these links:That argument only "works" if you discount the fact that Obama added $787 billion ARRA spending, authorized in February 2009.
American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Recovery.gov - Tracking the Money
??? So what? Did you expect Bush to do it?
No. I'm afraid it isn't. Every president is going to inherit the spending of the guy that preceded him. Whoever succeeds Obama will inherit what he left. It's neither insane nor dishonest as Politifact points out. I know conservatives don't like Fact checkers...they have an aversion to facts, as we heard in the last election.
That's a good idea. Lets keep it real. Who was president from 07/8? That spending carried over into 08/9 from the Bush years. It was still the Bush economy. We were still under the Bush Tax cuts. We were still involved in Bush's wars. That spending rate has not increased under Obama as you've just pointed out. The rate of spending has actually slowed.[/QUOTE]
“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman
That doesn't sound " objective" to me.
But Iv'e noticed a trend with some of these "objective" posters.
They've come in with names like "truth finder", "Mr Objective", " Dr Fact" or " Moderate Man" and make some of the most hack worthy partisan nonsensical post to date.
Like the libs who set up the " politifact" and "Z~Facts" websites and just basically push the progressive twisted partisan rhetoric rather than.the truth....or the facts.
Connection or not the endresult is in order to get your word out your using underhanded and lowlife tactics in the attempt to fool low information voters.
Its why their ideology will eventually colllapse under the weight of its own corrupt methodology. That your110 % effort is still essentially based on a lie is indication enough that your in desperation mode.
As already noted, our productivity per dollar of labor cost is being outdone by other countries who export to us.
Also, as has been noted, the majority of these minimum wage jobs are not with the mega corporations stateside. Its in fast food and simple retail. OBTW, the consumer does NOT DRIVE JOB CREATION. The one who provides the product that the consumer wants does that. The one who takes the risk to create new and better products and services does that.
Otherwise, your "logic" is so convoluted it is as a bad joke. Increasing wages without an increase in relative productivity is nothing more than redistribution, from those who are more productive, to those who are less.