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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    Its here con. all you have to do is read the last five pages.
    In your dreams, how many, who are they, and how long do they remain on minimum wage?

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    Re: SOTU Address:

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    In your dreams, how many,
    How so?



    who are they, and how long do they remain on minimum wage?

    I believe that most live in the Houston area.Who knows you mighta been making payroll outta your little cubical for them before your retirement in the last century.
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    How so?

    How many Americans are making minimum wage, what are their ages, and how long do they make minimum wage. Further do you think it is the role of the govt. to tell you how much to pay your workers after you put the investment into your business and are the last one paid?




    I believe that most live in the Houston area.Who knows you mighta been making payroll outta your little cubical for them before your retirement in the last century.
    Just goes to show how little you truly know. Never hired an illegal, nor did I ever pay the govt. mandated minimum wage as the market would never allow it, Further I competed against Wal-Mart and know that they don't pay their full time employees minimum wage, they do promote from within, and offer all full time employees healthcare options.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    <Productivity growth in the United States has rebounded sharply over the past decade, after the disappointingly sluggish growth in the prior two decades.>


    Productivity Growth and Employment
    Which is fine. But so has productivity increased all over, primarily due to the influence of computers and more robotics.

    Look, if there is going to be a MW increase, let it be for accurate reasons, such as indexed to inflation. Not for some absurdity that it will actually grow the economy.

    Others have mentioned how states have done it, which is also far better than the Feds doing it. One size does not fit all with this, unless one is just trying to make more folks dependent on government, under the guise of curing some cockamamie social injustice.
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    For a start it(raising the minimum wage) would inject almost $10 billion of extra spending power into our economy.Oh...bytheway.Half of all minimum wage earners are over the age of 25.Just sayen.
    In my comment, I did acknowledge the fact that older people fill positions of minimum wage, because it makes no sense for an employer to pay someone that much with absolutely no skill. Also, the $10B of extra spending power is a crock of crap. Who do you think will pay for the minimum wage, the employer or the consumer? You want our dollars to have less buying power, raise minimum wage.

    Also, forcing a company (say McDonalds) to pay the low-skilled cashier or lobby detail takes money out of the pockets of the people running the fryers, assembling orders, and cooking the food.
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Hagel looked like an incompetent, unprepared moron.

    Spare us the political smear campaign disguised as philosophical crap, posing as an intellectual doesnt make you one.
    That doesn't change the fact that McCain and the others are simply using him as a whipping boy for his turning against Bush. Dis-loyalty to the group has its consequences doesn't it? As for the political smear campaign, try telling the Republicans on the committee to heed your advice. And If you want to deal with what I post, then critique it with your brain, not your bias. In other words, tell me where I'm wrong. That would serve you better.
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061474390

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    He also allegedly has an IQ of 140...but posted his response in the wrong thread twice.

    Believe it or not...I got cited for my reponse to all that nonsense. Apparently I was flaming. "This entire post is nothing but baiting. In the future, address the argument rather than the other poster". I've been warned. It came from a conservative moderator. I don't know...maybe she thought I'd posted all that garbage. Go figure.
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Dude, you can't quote stuff from other threads and just bulldoze this one. That's 3 quotes from a different thread.

    That's 7 quotes from a different thread, all from the same member. Are you ok?
    Why am I getting cited for a post by that guy? I dont' get it?
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    Why am I getting cited for a post by that guy? I dont' get it?
    I think sometimes the sheer quantity of jackassery creates a sort of vortex, causing anomalies to occur. I have no idea what you're talkin' about.

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that McCain and the others are simply using him as a whipping boy for his turning against Bush. Dis-loyalty to the group has its consequences doesn't it? As for the political smear campaign, try telling the Republicans on the committee to heed your advice. And If you want to deal with what I post, then critique it with your brain, not your bias. In other words, tell me where I'm wrong. That would serve you better.
    Hagel did not look like he was ready the job at hand, which is tough and demanding. His Q&A was terrible on a variety of levels. Thats NOT bias. People from both sides have said that exact thing. Politicians dont exact revenge for someone that "turns" against a retired politician. There is nothing in it for them to do so---especially McCain who has already criticized Bush far and wide. Your premise is very flawed.

    Bolded is random jackassery and borderline flaming, just state your case without the peanut gallery.

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