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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    always thought was catchy

    I have always liked " go pound sand ".

    Its catchy.

    Instead of leaving I would rather stick around and watch the lefts bankrupt agenda collapse around them while they blame a President that hasn't been in office for over 4 years.

    Hell, this is a "recovery" . Gotta stick around for the excuses and desperate mitigation as more and more people realize that their President has condemned them to perpetual misery and mediocrite

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
    I'm all for a time limit or amount of money that one person can receive money from the government.
    Didn't we have that until recently, when Obama ordered it effectively lifted through a regulatory body, going around congress......Again?
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
    I'm all for a time limit or amount of money that one person can receive money from the government.
    then they will just break up the larger farm into smaller farms, each one entitled to its own "share" of farm subsidies
    wait, this is already happening
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Subsidizing ? You mean by being consumers ?

    Companies and corporations DON'T pay tax's, they simply distribute the tax's from the consumer to the Govt.
    Try not to get tied up in the corrupt philosophy from the left that would have you believe that Corporations dont pass on their tax burden to the consumers. They do.

    So a tax increase on the Mean Ole' Corporations is actually a tax on the middle class as they raise their prices or lay off workers or all of the above and relocate.
    I know I'm relatively new here but please try to not jump to typecasting conclusions of my views.

    Who was talking about taxing the mean ole corporations? I was talking about indirect tax payer money going to the corporations to prop up their legally lowest pay possible to their employees.

    My point could be proven easily. If you are working 40 hours a week, you don't get housing, food or medical assistance from the government. How many workers do you think would continue to work for minimum wage?
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    The constitution says corporations have some of the same rights as "persons".

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    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I'm excited to see the Repub response and the Tea Party response dole out the crazy in a fight to show their base who hates Obama more.
    I doubt there are many who actually "hate" Obama and certainly not in the sense the Left hated George W. Bush.

    It's just that many more are realizing now how incompetent the man is and how he is so dangerously in over his head. That's the main concern.

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
    I know I'm relatively new here but please try to not jump to typecasting conclusions of my views.

    Who was talking about taxing the mean ole corporations? I was talking about indirect tax payer money going to the corporations to prop up their legally lowest pay possible to their employees.

    My point could be proven easily. If you are working 40 hours a week, you don't get housing, food or medical assistance from the government. How many workers do you think would continue to work for minimum wage?

    That's a great point. People should not forget that for every dollar that the minimum wage is increased, resulting in another 28 to 35 cents withholding is collected by the Government. Also, with the push by this administration to increase the rolls of welfare recipients, coupled with the trend of businesses to cut hours from 40 per week, to 29 hours per week in response to the PPACA, and the history of resulting increases in MW directly linked to higher prices for goods on the shelves, this is a bad idea IMHO.
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I doubt there are many who actually "hate" Obama and certainly not in the sense the Left hated George W. Bush.

    It's just that many more are realizing now how incompetent the man is and how he is so dangerously in over his head. That's the main concern.
    i look forward to your list describing the instances of Obama's incompetence
    really
    please share your list with us
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i look forward to your list describing the instances of Obama's incompetence
    really
    please share your list with us
    I don't know if you are joking or serious.

    Why not point out an area where he has demonstrated competence? It would take much less time.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I don't know if you are joking or serious.

    Why not point out an area where he has demonstrated competence? It would take much less time.
    Obama slept through church for 20 years. That's not easy.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I don't know if you are joking or serious.

    Why not point out an area where he has demonstrated competence? It would take much less time.
    i am quite serious
    you insist Obama is incompetent as a president
    i am asking you to list those things which should show us that alleged incompetence
    accept the challenge to defend your position ... or wave the white flag of surrender
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