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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Clinton supposedly balanced the budget right ? In order to balance the budget the "irellevent " defecit would have to be lowered right ?
    Clinton and congress got close to a balanced budget, though they never actually completely balanced it. A deficit indicates that the budget is not balanced.

    Maybe you can explain why reducing the Deficit is irrelevent
    I never claimed it was. I was laughing at Conservative for saying it was irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Don't know if you just miswrote or what but DEBT is not the same as DEFICIT

    FROM that well-known 'librul' source, National Review
    Do taxpayers pay debt service on the debt or the deficit. To take credit for a lower deficit than the previous year when that deficit is still over a trillion dollarsand the debt up to 16.5 trillion dollars and still showed debt service increases is typical liberalism that appeals to the poorly informed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So now cutting the deficit is relevant. Could you make up your mind please?
    What economic policies did Obama implement that lowered the deficit? The Iraq War ended due to the Status of Force Agreement negotiated during the Bush Administration? The tax increases on those evil rich people hadn't even been implemented. Liberals like you always want to take victory laps over a reduction in the deficit but increase in the debt showing how little you know about the budget or economic policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What economic policies did Obama implement that lowered the deficit? The Iraq War ended due to the Status of Force Agreement negotiated during the Bush Administration? The tax increases on those evil rich people hadn't even been implemented. Liberals like you always want to take victory laps over a reduction in the deficit but increase in the debt showing how little you know about the budget or economic policies.
    Did I say Obama lowered the deficit? No. I laughed at you for saying the deficit was irrelevant. Don't put words in my mouth.
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Did I say Obama lowered the deficit? No. I laughed at you for saying the deficit was irrelevant. Don't put words in my mouth.
    When the deficit is over a trillion dollars and the debt service goes up, the deficit reduction is irrelevant, very small and has nothing to do with anything Obama did.

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by uhohhotdog View Post
    Because I know many of those people. I've had people come into where I work during an interview where I gave them a tour and when they asked about the pay they were immediately turned off never to be heard from again. I know people who made more on unemployment than a minimum wage job would pay. Now I know you think, well thats reckless government spending. What I think is that it's deplorable that real jobs pay so little.

    If the market established wages, many people would be working for even less than what minimum wage is now. You can't live off of current wages yet you think people should make even less? That's just sickening. Truly truly sickening.
    I am still waiting for you to define those who are making minimum wage including how many, who they are, and how long they make minimum wage. Then after taking your foot out of your mouth tell us how increasing the minimum wage to $9 an hour puts people above the poverty level?

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    When the deficit is over a trillion dollars and the debt service goes up, the deficit reduction is irrelevant, very small and has nothing to do with anything Obama did.
    The goal of 4 trillion over 10 years, which is 400 billion a year on average, would make a significant cut. Even the >2 trillion we are at would make a difference. Sorry, but cutting the deficit is not irrelevant.
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I am still waiting for you to define those who are making minimum wage including how many, who they are, and how long they make minimum wage. Then after taking your foot out of your mouth tell us how increasing the minimum wage to $9 an hour puts people above the poverty level?
    who said a $9 minimum wage would take those earners out of poverty
    you are attempting to conflate the minimum wage with a living wage ... other than being defined in monetary terms, they are quite different
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I am still waiting for you to define those who are making minimum wage including how many, who they are, and how long they make minimum wage. Then after taking your foot out of your mouth tell us how increasing the minimum wage to $9 an hour puts people above the poverty level?
    This is simply an attempt by the left to mandate that users of low wage labor pay a "tax penalty" for not paying a "living wage".
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by uhohhotdog View Post
    More sickening comments from conservatives. EVERYONE that works full time hours should have a basic living wage. It's called being human and having empathy.

    I can't believe how little people here care about others. It's all everyone for themselves. So disgusting. It makes me literally sick to my stomach that people actually think this way.
    Give us a break with the pontification. Define basic living wage. We already feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and house the homeless. I'm not about to guarantee success for every working human. I can't. You can't. Nobody can. Not every human effort is rewarded. Go yell at the heavens about it.

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