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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "The insta-returns are in and the president knocked the State of the Union out of

    the ballpark.”


    " A CBS poll directly following the speech showed 91 percent of viewers approved of the proposals Obama made, while 9 percent disapproved. “No great surprises here,” Schlesinger writes. “The speech was well-delivered and seemed to be constructed not to pick partisan fights.”

    Was President Obama
    Well delivered ? It was absolute nonsense. Blame and irrelevent topics.

    Gun control ? Climate change ?

    Its clear by the poll that 91% of the people they polled were full blown morons.

    With chronic joblessness, 8,500,000 people missing from the work force, massive structural debt put in place by Obama, not Bush, massive Central Bank Injections, massive defecit spending, record rises in dependence, food stamps, disabillity claims, a shrinking economy with increased spending, a ObamaCare law weighing down the private sector, he chose to talk about gun control.

    I hope he gets 9 bucks an hour implemented because he knows what the end result of that stupid policy will be.

    More dependence, more democrats but a hastened collapse.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Cuts in the deficit are irrelevant when govt. spending increases which it has every year under Obama.
    Oh good lord that is ****ing hilarious. Cutting the deficit is irrelevant!
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    Bush 43? He turned a $200 billion surplus into a $400 billion deficit by the end of his first term, and a $1.2 trillion deficit by the end of his second term. Do the math.

    By B. Furnas on Feb 20, 2009 at 3:49 pm. Yesterday, the New York Times reported that President Obama, in the budget he’s releasing next week, will not use “four accounting gimmicks that President George W. Bush used to make deficit projections look smaller.”

    The changes: account for the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (“overseas military contingencies”) in the budget rather than through the use of “emergency” supplemental spending bills, assume the Alternative Minimum Tax will be indexed for inflation, account for the full costs of Medicare reimbursements, and anticipate the inevitable expenditures for natural disaster relief. These changes would make the debt over ten years look $2.7 trillion larger than the distorted Bush baseline, but that debt was always there. It was just being hidden. President Bush’s budgets hid billions with elaborate budget gimmicks. They took war-spending off the books, tried to eliminate the costs of wildly expensive tax cuts for the wealthy, and claimed savings through unrealistic, unspecified future cuts in vital discretionary spending.

    I remember vividly when it was announced that Bush would remove the wars from the budget. I also remember as vividly that Obama would put them back on the books. And yes...it was hidden for eight years because so many people didn't even bother to ask questions. We went to war on lies and nobody asked questions. Why would you think that this was so hard to do?
    Wow, what is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty. You obviously have no concept of projected versus actual and need to stop drinking the kool-aid. You simply aren't getting the education the public is paying for through taxes. There was no surplus during the Clinton years, every year since Obama has been in office there has been a trillion dollar deficit and apparently the Bush deficits gave Obama the authority to put Bush spending on steroids. On budget and off budget items are still part of the yearly deficit, something a liberal refuses to admit.

    By the way, the fiscal year of the United States runs from October to September meaning that Bush had control of the WH from October 1, 2008 to January 20, 2009 and Bush didn't spend all the 700 billion TARP money, didn't create a 840 billion dollar stimulus, program, bailout out GM/Chrysler, or create the Afghanistan surge. You simply are very misinformed

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    [QUOTE=Redress;1061464247]Oh good lord that is ****ing hilarious. Cutting the deficit is irrelevant![/
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    It was one of Clintons big "victories".
    ( Thanks to a Republican House )

    I mean I hear Libs bring it up at least once a day. Now its irrelevent ?

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post

    It was one of Clintons big "victories".
    ( Thanks to a Republican House )

    I mean I hear Libs bring it up at least once a day. Now its irrelevent ?
    Can I get you to put that in english for me please. As is I have no idea what exactly you are trying to say.
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Oh good lord that is ****ing hilarious. Cutting the deficit is irrelevant!
    Let me know when the deficit gets under a trillion dollars and when the debt service isn't the fourth largest budget item? What is f***ing hilarious is how so many continue to buy the liberal rhetoric in light of the liberal failures and poor economic results.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wow, what is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty. You obviously have no concept of projected versus actual and need to stop drinking the kool-aid. You simply aren't getting the education the public is paying for through taxes. There was no surplus during the Clinton years, every year since Obama has been in office there has been a trillion dollar deficit and apparently the Bush deficits gave Obama the authority to put Bush spending on steroids. On budget and off budget items are still part of the yearly deficit, something a liberal refuses to admit.

    By the way, the fiscal year of the United States runs from October to September meaning that Bush had control of the WH from October 1, 2008 to January 20, 2009 and Bush didn't spend all the 700 billion TARP money, didn't create a 840 billion dollar stimulus, program, bailout out GM/Chrysler, or create the Afghanistan surge. You simply are very misinformed

    Government - Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

    Don't know if you just miswrote or what but DEBT is not the same as DEFICIT

    FROM that well-known 'librul' source, National Review
    Admirers of the GM bailout should bear in mind that it was the Bush administration that first decided to intervene at the firm
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Let me know when the deficit gets under a trillion dollars and when the debt service isn't the fourth largest budget item? What is f***ing hilarious is how so many continue to buy the liberal rhetoric in light of the liberal failures and poor economic results.
    So now cutting the deficit is relevant. Could you make up your mind please?
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    Why would you oppose a $9 minimum wage? Do you want to keep people living in poverty? Most jobs pay more then the minimum amyway. This takes people barely over the poverty line.
    Because as you so accurately stated 'Most jobs pay more then the minimum amyway'. Why bother? Further, this will have no effect on moving folks 'over the poverty line'...as income moves (up or down) so does the poverty line and these entry level earners are what creates this line.
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Can I get you to put that in english for me
    please. As is I have no idea what
    exactly you are trying to say.
    Clinton supposedly balanced the budget right ? In order to balance the budget the "irelevent " defecit would have to be lowered right ?

    Maybe you can explain why reducing the Deficit is irrelevent

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