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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by uhohhotdog View Post
    Minimum wage was $1.60 in 1970

    U.S. Minimum Wage History


    According to your calculator that's $9.47.


    Here's a history of minimum wage in Constant dollars

    Federal Minimum Wage Rates, 1955
    Which doesn't matter for squat. We were not competing in a global economy then. Such as the auto unions paid ridiculously well then too.

    Times have changed. Get a couple roommates. Cook at home. And make yourself worth more.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayno View Post
    The government makes FAR more on every gallon of gas than the oil company....
    Not even close

    Fuel Fix » Where does your money go at the gas pump?

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    WRONG. Using your own 2nd link, in constant 1996 dollars the 1970 minimum wage was $4.96 and in 2012 was $4.97. Think before you drink, even Koolaid.
    Dude. You're looking at 2 different values there. In 1968 it was 7.21 in 1996 dollars. Learn to read.

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Obama has done plenty of damage all on his own. His first two years were with a Democrat Congress.
    He passed the most destructive legislation in US history. ObamaCare.

    Blaming Republicans for his foolishness is desperate and lame. When are you guys going to take responsibillity ?

    Liberalism ? Succesful ? In what universe?

    In Greece, France, Spain ? I mean its exceedingly apparent as the US turns down the moron road that massive structural debt, high unemoyment, a growing dependent class is not exactly "successful".
    His first two years were with a Democrat Congress. He passed the most destructive legislation in US history. ObamaCare.
    Your opinion of it doesn't make it true. Conservatives have spent a good chunk of this year trying to convince the public that Obamacare is the spawn of Satan and needs to be repealed in its entirety. For all their efforts, though, they seem to be convincing no one. Indeed, if anything, support for repeal is dropping. This is the finding in the new Kaiser Health Tracking poll, conducted just after the election. In that poll, 49 percent of respondents wanted to either expand the Affordable Care Act (27 percent) or keep it as is (22 percent). Just 33 percent wanted to either repeal it and replace with a Republican alternative (14 percent) or repeal it without a replacement (19 percent). It appears you're in the minority "opinion" on this.

    Blaming Republicans for his foolishness is desperate and lame. When are you guys going to take responsibillity ?
    When are you going to stop spouting this nonsense? Listen to Rubio's response. It's one attack after another blaming Obama for everything. This is your response to what I posted?? . What do you say to the immediate effort by the Repubs after his first inauguration? Quiet on that aren't you? When are you going to take responsibility for the 8 years that got us into this mess?

    Liberalism ? Succesful ? In what universe?
    Try this one. The United States was a liberal idea to begin with. It's lasted over 200 years.

    In Greece, France, Spain ? I mean its exceedingly apparent as the US turns down the moron road that massive structural debt, high unemoyment, a growing dependent class is not exactly "successful".
    Our economy is way ahead of theirs. Are you advocating austerity? Look at Greece and see how successful that is going.

    Last night Rubio came out with exactly the same garbage that Romney offered and the country rejected. Same story. Different face.
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    What are you talking about? Minimum wage is supposed to be "flat" relative to inflation, and is. Other than SS/Medicare taxation a minmum wage worker pays NO federal income taxes.

    Federal Minimum Wage Rates, 1955
    Hence, the reason the President suggested linking the minimum wage rate to the cost of living index in an effort to keep people who make minimum wage from slipping back into poverty.

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Which doesn't matter for squat. We were not competing in a global economy then. Such as the auto unions paid ridiculously well then too.

    Times have changed. Get a couple roommates. Cook at home. And make yourself worth more.

    Unions in Germany pay their auto workers far far far more than in the US. I don't see German auto industry dying.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    There's no effort on my part to insult Conservatives. You guys do that all by yourselves. Your very comment in protecting the earnings of business owners while overlooking the plight of the working poor is evidence enough of how off-base and out of touch many of you on the Right truly are. Your every defense against raising taxes is all about how to get people from unemployment to employment. But you never discuss "how" to prepare the workforce of the future nor what to do to ease the economic burden on those who are struggling financially until they are able to find full, meaningful employment. In the minds of most Republicans, those who are unemployed are truly on their own.
    I need my hip-waders on just to read this nonsense. Hardship is the Mother of all Motivators. What you advocate is an ever-expanding government teat, funded by our children and grandchildren.

    **** that. Take a roommate. Move in with relatives. Stop looking for free-stuff.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayno View Post
    No, the President sets energy policy.

    And that policy will increase, or lower, gas prices.
    You don't really believe what you are saying do you?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/18/op...myth.html?_r=0

    Because oil is a global commodity, increasing domestic production will do very little to bring down retail prices, although it does help narrow the trade deficit as America spends less on imports. On this score, America is doing much better than the Republicans will admit. In 2005, oil imports accounted for nearly 60 percent of America’s daily consumption. In 2010, for the first time in recent memory, imports were less than half of consumption, and last year, imports were only 45 percent — 8.6 million barrels a day of the 19 million consumed. There are two reasons for this welcome shift: production is up and oil consumption is down. Production of crude oil and other liquid fuels, onshore and offshore, reached about 10.3 million barrels daily in 2011, its highest level since the late 1980s.

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by uhohhotdog View Post
    Unions in Germany pay their auto workers far far far more than in the US. I don't see German auto industry dying.
    This is so dumb. Whatever the Germans pay, they are competitive. If they pay more, they get more. I guarantee you they do not pay for stupidity and laziness.

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    You are wrong too in 1970 it was $6.47, I read accross to 1998 by mistake.
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