“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman
BTW, I don't respect you, because you sit there in the middle playing both sides against each other, and doing nothing yourself.
"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!
I'm just saying that the comparisons with the (relatively) successful Nordic "socialisms" are not valid: their societal evolution was very different from ours, and calling some things by the same names does not actually make them the same, or even similar. Denmark is a more capitalist country than America, right now, if you go by the measures that matter most for this one "capitalist".
P.S. I have spent quite a lot of time in Denmark, working on a number of high-tech small-business projects. Nowhere else, not even in the glorious state of New Hampshire, had I met so many hard-core libertarians. They just don't see their free-marketism as any excuse to distance themselves from their aunties and uncles, siblings and kindergarten firends, etc who may have different political views. It is a country of 5 million. A big family.
Nowhere in the world - except for my own well-feathered American nest - had I felt as comfortable as in Denmark. These people actually seem to enjoy life - while working hard and keeping their streets immaculate clean - wow!
But can we just carbon-copy their achievements here? I don't see how.
Reminds me of the old Soviet joke: "- Why do we have this nightmare version of socialism? Why can't we have the socialism with a human face, like in Sweden?" - " I guess we could, in theory...but there are not enough Swedes in the world to replace all our people..."
If the market established wages, many people would be working for even less than what minimum wage is now. You can't live off of current wages yet you think people should make even less? That's just sickening. Truly truly sickening.