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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    To be fair, people who make $9 an hour don't pay much taxes. So as a revenue generator, it's pretty doubtful.

    In a world where a cup of coffee at a restaurant is $2.50, $9 isn't very much money at all.
    Actually, when you consider just HOW many people make minimum wage, it's quite a windfall for the government nationally..

    And when you consider everyone who's making slightly ABOVE minimum wage is going to want an increase too, it tends to raise wages for most folks on the bottom edge of the wage scale.

    Of course, the INTELLIGENT thing to do would be to LIMIT THE NUMBER of lower wage workers, by sealing the border, and stopping the hiring of illegals.

    That would NATURALLY raise wages, as competition for them would increase....

    That's why Wall Mart is paying 12 an hour entry level in some of the new oil boom towns in the west.

    Labor competition.

    Great place to go for ANYONE out of work right now.

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    OK, I see your point. Isn't that a good thing though? Wouldn't more wages be good for business as well as the government? Consumers gotta consume.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wayno View Post
    Actually, when you consider just HOW many people make minimum wage, it's quite a windfall for the government nationally..

    And when you consider everyone who's making slightly ABOVE minimum wage is going to want an increase too, it tends to raise wages for most folks on the bottom edge of the wage scale.

    Of course, the INTELLIGENT thing to do would be to LIMIT THE NUMBER of lower wage workers, by sealing the border, and stopping the hiring of illegals.

    That would NATURALLY raise wages, as competition for them would increase....

    That's why Wall Mart is paying 12 an hour entry level in some of the new oil boom towns in the west.

    Labor competition.

    Great place to go for ANYONE out of work right now.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    The best thing was the $9 an hour thing. It would be a huge deal on several levels.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    OK, I see your point. Isn't that a good thing though? Wouldn't more wages be good for business as well as the government? Consumers gotta consume.
    And businesses have to make a profit....

    The increased expenses in wages would be offset by an increase in prices.

    The rest of us would wind up paying more.

    In addition, with all the money that's been printed, inflation, which is already going to take off when the banks start lending again and it "gains velocity," will REALLY take off.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    The best thing was the $9 an hour thing. It would be a huge deal on several levels.
    That is the sum total of the hope you get from Obama, Nine bucks an hour.

    The real tragedy is that the loons think that's great. We're in tall cotton now!

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayno View Post
    The rest of us would wind up paying more..

    Why are you opposed to paying those at the bottom of the pay scale a wage that they might be able to survive on?

    Did you ever hear of Henry Ford? Ninety nine years ago in January, 1914 Ford raised the pay of his workers to $5.00 a day.

    He reasoned that since, because of his innovations, it was now possible to build inexpensive cars in volume, more of them could be sold if employees could afford to buy them. The $5 day helped better the lot of all American workers and contributed to the emergence of the American middle class. In the process. Ford had changed manufacturing forever.

    More here:Henry Ford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Unfortunately most of you people on the right just don't understand how the economy works.

    Have a nice day.



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    Re: SOTU Address:

    [QUOTE=shrubnose;1061460101]Why are you opposed to paying those at the bottom of the pay scale a wage that they might be able to survive on?
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    I suppose if I were in the White House for four years and most of the new jobs that were created during my first term in the White House were unskilled, low paying minimum wage jobs, I also would call for raising the minimum wage.

    But come on, getting paid $9. per hour for cleaning toilets and flipping burgers !

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    The best thing was the $9 an hour thing. It would be a huge deal on several levels.
    It would crowd out minorities and young people trying to enter the Labor Market

    It would be a horrible thing

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Why are you opposed to paying those at the bottom of the pay scale a wage that they might be able to survive on?

    Did you ever hear of Henry Ford? Ninety nine years ago in January, 1914 Ford raised the pay of his workers to $5.00 a day.

    He reasoned that since, because of his innovations, it was now possible to build inexpensive cars in volume, more of them could be sold if employees could afford to buy them. The $5 day helped better the lot of all American workers and contributed to the emergence of the American middle class. In the process. Ford had changed manufacturing forever.

    More here:Henry Ford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Unfortunately most of you people on the right just don't understand how the economy works.

    Have a nice day.



    "Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
    The minimum wage is not supposed to be a "living wage"

    It is supposed to be an entry level wage for young people entering the labor market who have no skills and no experience

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    Obama was demonstrating one of his shovel-ready jobs last night, shoveling bull ****.
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Why are you opposed to paying those at the bottom of the pay scale a wage that they might be able to survive on?

    Did you ever hear of Henry Ford? Ninety nine years ago in January, 1914 Ford raised the pay of his workers to $5.00 a day.

    He reasoned that since, because of his innovations, it was now possible to build inexpensive cars in volume, more of them could be sold if employees could afford to buy them. The $5 day helped better the lot of all American workers and contributed to the emergence of the American middle class. In the process. Ford had changed manufacturing forever.

    More here:Henry Ford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Unfortunately most of you people on the right just don't understand how the economy works.

    Have a nice day.



    "Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
    Lefty myths of our time: why Henry Ford's 'pay rise' for workers undermines the Living Wage campaign – Telegraph Blogs

    Ford didnt raise his wage for charity or so his workers could buy his cars. He did it to stop them from quitting and having to retrain new workers.

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