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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Looks like BHO will be remembered mainly as Rubio's opening act. Even the BHO supporters can't think of anything better than to whine about illegal strikers and their defeat over 30 years ago.
    Rubio's speech will be remembered primarily because he ducked down below the lights and camera to grab a drink of water.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Rubio's speech will be remembered primarily because he ducked down below the lights and camera to grab a drink of water.
    How is Rubio supposed to win against the democratic nominee if he can't even defeat a drink of water

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    Eh nothing too crazy happened tonight. This is what we get when we have the same exact government that we had four years ago. Same old stuff Obama always talks about. It's fun trying to figure out what social issue he will drag up next. Will it be immigration? Or will he start blowing up GOP members with his drones? Find out next week!!!!

    I was expecting Rubio to knock it out of the park, but it didn't happen. I don't know if he passed the audition. Do you think Christie could have done a better job? What about Dr. Carson, the guy who gave the other speech a few days ago?? There are rumors that he could possibly join the 2016 line up! Frankly, with how great Herman Cain did in the primaries before, he dropped out, I think another black man has a good shot at becoming President. You never know what could happen in four years. That's a long time!!! Dr. Carson has a long time to build up his resume and get out his message to as many people as possible. I see him on Fox all the time now.
    The Democrats would undoubtedly do everything they could to destroy Dr. Carson's reputation were he to run.

    Democrats have a REAL PROBLEM with black Americans who actually think for themselves, knowing what a threat they are....

    That's why they highlight racist race hustlers like Jackson and Sharpton as "leaders."

    To keep their base on the plantation....

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Rubio's speech will be remembered primarily because he ducked down below the lights and camera to grab a drink of water.
    That is kind of terrible that speeches are remembered for the silliest things, but then again why wasn't that stool and water right below the camera so he could reach down while still talking and barely miss a beat to drink.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's because Democrats jack up corporate taxes to the highest level worldwide. But don't let any facts get in the way of your favorite meme.
    It's interesting, you blame democrats for raising corporate tax rates, but Republicans controlled the Presidency, the House, and the Senate for quite a while. They managed to push through some pretty big income tax cuts. But they never seemed interested in lowering corporate tax rates. They complain about them when they are out of power, but didn't do anything about them when they were in power.

    Also, President Obama suggested lowering corporate tax rates and simplifying the tax code such that we could see revenues fairly neutral. That would seem like something Republicans in the House would have jumped all over (rhetorically), but they didn't.

    So we have this ridiculous corporate tax code, and the only people who benefit are giant corporations with huge accounting departments and very influential lobbyists, and neither Republicans nor Democrats seemed actually interested in changing it.

    But you want to blame the Democrats?

    Blame the way we pay for elections and blame the way politicians pay for their lavish lifestyles out of lobbyists wallets.

    Or, just keep doing what the lobbyists want you to do and pretend the problem with our country is democrat versus republican instead of lobbyists and campaign funders versus the American people.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    What a speech! As Jerry Lee Lewis would say,



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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    It's interesting, you blame democrats for raising corporate tax rates, but Republicans controlled the Presidency, the House, and the Senate for quite a while. They managed to push through some pretty big income tax cuts. But they never seemed interested in lowering corporate tax rates....
    Perhaps you weren't paying attention:

    Bush quietly signs corporate tax-cut bill - Business - Stocks & economy | NBC News

    Of course the Democrats had Congressional majority '08-'10 including the Whitehouse...did I miss them addressing the corporate rate?
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Rubio's speech will be remembered primarily because he ducked down below the lights and camera to grab a drink of water.
    You have to focus on water because you can't handle the fact his speech blew Obama's out of the water

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    To be fair, people who make $9 an hour don't pay much taxes. So as a revenue generator, it's pretty doubtful.

    In a world where a cup of coffee at a restaurant is $2.50, $9 isn't very much money at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayno View Post
    So, I GUESS you're saying that if a person makes MORE money, since the government gets a PERCENTAGE of their earnings, the government DOESN'T GET MORE MONEY?????

    I won't call you an idiot, but you really need to think about calling other people liars without engaging your brain first....

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Perhaps you weren't paying attention:

    Bush quietly signs corporate tax-cut bill - Business - Stocks & economy | NBC News

    Of course the Democrats had Congressional majority '08-'10 including the Whitehouse...did I miss them addressing the corporate rate?
    Did you read what you posted? It was exactly, precisely, specifically, more of the same garbage that makes up the corporate tax code now, more complexity, more accountants needed, more giveaways to the giant corporations, and nothing on the marginal rates to allow regular small and medium companies to just do their business, make their profits, pay a reasonable rate, and grow America.

    You said Democrats "jacked up corporate taxes to the highest level worldwide", so I ask you, did GWB do anything to make our corporate taxes something other than the highest worldwide?

    Seriously, our corporate taxes are horrible, but my statement stands, Republicans have done NOTHING to make them less horrible.

    "Obama has called for review of the corporate tax code - including lowering the top corporate tax rate to 28 percent from 35 percent, to be paid for by closing business tax breaks."

    THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTIVE, but of course, Republicans oppose it.
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