I was born and raised there. Every Governor ends up in prison. But I still don't attribute subscribe to sweeping generalities. They're simply logical fallacies. What you're doing is accepting that all Chicago Politicians are corrupt, and then looking for examples to support the theory. That's inductive reasoning and never proves the theory. Obama for example worked as we all know, as a community organizer. There's no money in that. With his college pedigree he could have opted for big money, but he didn't. He opted to make a difference. So forgive me if I don't share your cynicims.I live in Illinois, you cant trust either party if they are Cook County politicians.
No, it isn't. And they aren't. But I do notice that you make no mention of Fentons own admission to his "talking points" let alone the enormous comment he made using those very things. In fact, he's very proud of them. So apparently you look for "talking points" from me, while ignoring the obvious talking points from your friend. Is that not hypocritical? Well...yes. But then hypocrisy is also consistant in conservatism.The rest of your post is off topic political smearing and coincidence of coincidences, liberal talking points.
There's nothing phony about thinking your own thoughts. That kind of thinking usually attracts publishers. Certainly you've read a book or two during your life. They aren't written with talking points. Apparently you don't encounter that very often. My own influences stem from philosophy and logic. Logic has no political bias. I don't need a set of talking points to discuss anything with you. First of all, they're really useless in a debate since we both know that facts and data are always manipulated to conform to the ideology that's being argued. Who's talking points win that kind of debate? They amount to contradicting the other side with a set of counter-factuals. For example, theres nothing here in this comment that amounts to a talking point. I don't use them, and I don't engage with people that do. That tells me nothing about how a person thinks. I'm more interested in why they think the way they do, and what they base their thinking on. If you have to justify your thinking you're in trouble. There is no justification that will make your thinking rational. What makes it rational is if it is open to criticism. I'm interested in politicians and people in general, that think in rational terms. Not those tied to a bunch of ideological precepts dictated to them from some authority that can't justify itself.Does this phony independent thinker act of yours fool any other board?