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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Do you have any evidence to support this theory?
    Yeah...we were in free fall. A sane person wears a parachute.
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Taxpayers being on the hook is a seperate issue from the repeal of Glass Steagle. I am all for allowing failure to fail. It is the liberals who are not. See GM/Chrysler if you doubt me. I am more than OK with the creative destruction of capital. .
    Burn the village to save it huh? Sounds nice unless you're the one caught in the destruction.
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    This President has the worst economic record coming off a recession in modern history. He lacks leaderership skills as do his supporters. You really need to get over your Bush Derangement Syndrome and accept the fact that Obama is a disaster, lacking the qualifications for the job, and someone who tells you what you want to hear. Always blaming someone else for his own failures. You have no idea what leadership is all about
    We haven't had a recession like this one in modern history unless you call the Great Depression the modern age. And don't even think of telling me how bad Reagan had it. I lived through that and we didn't have Banks going under, and an auto industry going under, and a housing market collapse, and we didn't have the stock market drop by half, and we didn't have two wars.

    He lacks leaderership skills as do his supporters.
    And you guys have leadership skills to offer?? Who? Bush? Cheney? Romney?? the clown show at your debates? Boehener? Donald Trump? Who are you to talk about leadership skills? If you had leadership skills you'd have shown them, not talk about them.

    You really need to get over your Bush Derangement Syndrome and accept the fact that Obama is a disaster, lacking the qualifications for the job, and someone who tells you what you want to hear.
    Perhaps it's actually time uou got over your Obama Derangement Syndrome? Every think of that? Tell me something, is it possible you could be wrong? Possible?

    Always blaming someone else for his own failures. You have no idea what leadership is all about
    You mean like you're blaming Obama right now for his lack of leadership which you haven't been able to define beyond the horrible jokes you've offered the country. And that's your idea of leadership?? Legitimate Rape. God wanted it, evolution is theory straight from the pits of Hell, Transvaginal ultrasounds whether you need it or not....just where is it that you think you are leading us?
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The president proposes a budget each year, the Republicans amend it, and the Democrats refuse to vote for the GOP amended version.
    If that is the case, (which I question btw) then how is it that loyal Obama supporters like yourself, can't be honest about who in that case are the true obstructionists? I mean, when you write as you did here about Obama passing his budget, submitting it to congress, then Harry Reid tabling it because republicans added, or detracted things from it, that is the way it is supposed to happen, Obama and Reid are not Kings!? They don't get to say that it is their way or nothing.

    Dear Senator Reid,

    The law requires Congress to craft a budget every year. It has been 821 days, more than two years, since the United States Senate adopted a budget. The lack of a congressional budget continues to contribute to the fiscal nightmare we now face. Had the Senate adopted a budget in a timely manner this year, as the House of Representatives did, we would not be at an impasse on the debt limit increase at the 11th hour.

    Despite not having passed a budget in over two years, your amendment to increase the debt limit deems two consecutive budget resolutions for fiscal years 2012 and 2013. It sets spending allocations for most Senate Committees at the Congressional Budget Office’s rising baseline. Without hearings or debate on these allocations, this provision would provide a further excuse for avoiding a budget and increase the likelihood the Congressional Budget Act will be violated for a third straight year.

    This is an abrogation of the responsibilities of the Senate Committee on the Budget and the U.S. Senate. We were not elected to this body and chosen to serve on the Committee on the Budget to see most of the budget levels automatically set based on spending growth projections made by staff. It is this kind of process that has placed the country in a fiscal crisis.

    While we have other objections to your proposal, we specifically ask that you remove this provision from your amendment and allow the Committee to fulfill its duties and responsibilities, as set out in law, by allowing the markup of a fiscal year 2012 budget resolution in Committee and, once adopted, its immediate consideration in the Senate.

    Very truly yours,

    Jeff Sessions, Ranking Member
    Chuck Grassley
    Mike Enzi
    Mike Crapo
    John Cornyn
    Lindsey Graham
    John Thune
    Rob Portman
    Pat Toomey
    Ron Johnson
    Kelly Ayotte

    Budget Committee Republicans Warn Reid Against Attempting End-Run Around Budget Law In Debt Bill - Press Releases - Media - U.S. Senate Budget Committee
    Now look, Republican's were elected too, they have a say whether you, or Obama, or Reid like it or not. The attempt here for you to portray Congressional GOP as the ones responsible for no budget for, seriously, ever since Obama took office, is just not true in any way possible. This is Reid denying elected Congressional officials from having their constitutional say in these matters, and giving Obama a way to go around the constitution of this country to achieve his unlawful agenda matters that he could never get passed the right way.

    It is designed to circumvent the will of the people.
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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    We haven't had a recession like this one in modern history unless you call the Great Depression the modern age.

    Stop right there...This is a lie, put forth through platitudinal talking points from the first Obama campaign, and carried forth by disingenuous liberals running cover for their President who has failed miserably to right the ship....

    The deepest and longest-lasting recession the United States has experienced since then began in 1980, when Jimmy Carter was president (the gross domestic product dropped 9.6 percent in the second quarter of that year) and did not end until fourth-quarter 1982, almost two years into the Reagan presidency. There were positive quarters during this almost three-year period, resulting in what is known as a double-dip recession, but GDP did not return to the 1979 level until well into 2003. Unemployment peaked at 10.6 percent in the fall of 1982.

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Looks to me like good reasons to replace the firewall between
    investment banks and commercial banks.
    Yep, what I thought.

    The limitations of the left never cease to amaze me.
    The FED through their Quantative easing are buying up MBS..

    Where do you think they're buying them from ?

    Who's MBS are they ? They're GSE Mortgage backed secutities and with the majority of TARP payed back do you ever think we will be off the hook for the Trillions of toxic mortgages bought up and bundles by the GSEs ?

    But that debt your'e ok with .......banks a evil word but Government Service Entities' the people that really ripped us off get a pass from the progressives.

    Where do you think Investment Banks got their derivitives from ?
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yep, what I thought.

    The limitations of the left never cease to amaze me.
    The FED through their Quantative easing are buying up MBS..

    Where do you think they're buying them from ?

    Who's MBS are they ? They're GSE Mortgage backed secutities and with the majority of TARP payed back do you ever think we will be off the hook for the Trillions of toxic mortgages bought up and bundles by the GSEs ?

    But that debt your'e ok with .......banks a evil word but Government Service Entities' the people that really ripped us off get a pass from the progressives.

    Where do you think Investment Banks got their derivitives from ?

    Oh careful now....See now you are peeking behind the curtain of Agenda 21, and "sustainable communities".....The entire plan was always with the Global warming scheme, to take away property rights, and redistribute that wealth to others that can't, or won't achieve that level. It is a back door to communism, always has been.
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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    I'm retired pal. Try it. You'll like it . It gives me times to be creative in my view toward people like yourself. Maybe you'll be as creative in your response?

    This is dedicated to you. Enjoy.

    Really? You are retired? You are too old then to be so naive, gullible, and poorly informed. I retired in 2004 at the age of 57. Want to compare experience and bank accounts? I made it and people like don't think I am that smart so if I can make it why do we need the govt and Obama taking a bigger role in each American's life? Still waiting for answers to my questions, how many people are making minimum wage, who are they, and how long do they make that wage/

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    re: SOTU Address:[W: 378; 1310; 1451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Adagio View Post
    Burn the village to save it huh? Sounds nice unless you're the one caught in the destruction.
    Businesses have failed before without having to burn the village to the ground. Try to avoid metaphors until you get the hang of the things.

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    Re: SOTU Address:

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Stop right there...This is a lie, put forth through platitudinal talking points from the first Obama campaign, and carried forth by disingenuous liberals running cover for their President who has failed miserably to right the ship....
    It is one of those tragicomic things. A man who has never created a single job in his life has been saying for six years or so that he is going to "create jobs". That's the comic part.

    The tragic part is that many people still actually believe him.

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