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Perfectly stated view of authoritarians. Suck dick or face the consequences.


Then evidently, all leaders must be authoritarians.......

You know, people who say they "need to know whose butt to kick" kind of folks...

Like President Poodle Stew.
 
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Looks like BHO will be remembered mainly as Rubio's opening act. Even the BHO supporters can't think of anything better than to whine about illegal strikers and their defeat over 30 years ago.:nahnah:
 
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LOL..............

Obama calls economy 'unfinished task'...

Takes 57 Vacation Days Since Vowing He 'Will Not Rest'...
 
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Well, that's a wrap. Almost two hours and nothing new. Obama did a good job rousing the crowd with his "desrves a vote" chorus, thing is HE'S not up for election next year.

Not any different from "Pass this jobs bill now" ......... which never got passed, BS legislation that it was.

Obama is full of ****. His voters want their free-stuff, and he gave them no reason to fear they would lose it.
 
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Eh nothing too crazy happened tonight. This is what we get when we have the same exact government that we had four years ago. Same old stuff Obama always talks about. It's fun trying to figure out what social issue he will drag up next. Will it be immigration? Or will he start blowing up GOP members with his drones? Find out next week!!!!

I was expecting Rubio to knock it out of the park, but it didn't happen. I don't know if he passed the audition. Do you think Christie could have done a better job? What about Dr. Carson, the guy who gave the other speech a few days ago?? There are rumors that he could possibly join the 2016 line up! Frankly, with how great Herman Cain did in the primaries before, he dropped out, I think another black man has a good shot at becoming President. You never know what could happen in four years. That's a long time!!! Dr. Carson has a long time to build up his resume and get out his message to as many people as possible. I see him on Fox all the time now.
 
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Looks like BHO will be remembered mainly as Rubio's opening act. Even the BHO supporters can't think of anything better than to whine about illegal strikers and their defeat over 30 years ago.:nahnah:

Rubio's speech will be remembered primarily because he ducked down below the lights and camera to grab a drink of water. :lamo
 
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Rubio's speech will be remembered primarily because he ducked down below the lights and camera to grab a drink of water. :lamo

How is Rubio supposed to win against the democratic nominee if he can't even defeat a drink of water
 
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Eh nothing too crazy happened tonight. This is what we get when we have the same exact government that we had four years ago. Same old stuff Obama always talks about. It's fun trying to figure out what social issue he will drag up next. Will it be immigration? Or will he start blowing up GOP members with his drones? Find out next week!!!!

I was expecting Rubio to knock it out of the park, but it didn't happen. I don't know if he passed the audition. Do you think Christie could have done a better job? What about Dr. Carson, the guy who gave the other speech a few days ago?? There are rumors that he could possibly join the 2016 line up! Frankly, with how great Herman Cain did in the primaries before, he dropped out, I think another black man has a good shot at becoming President. You never know what could happen in four years. That's a long time!!! Dr. Carson has a long time to build up his resume and get out his message to as many people as possible. I see him on Fox all the time now.

The Democrats would undoubtedly do everything they could to destroy Dr. Carson's reputation were he to run.

Democrats have a REAL PROBLEM with black Americans who actually think for themselves, knowing what a threat they are....

That's why they highlight racist race hustlers like Jackson and Sharpton as "leaders."

To keep their base on the plantation....
 
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Rubio's speech will be remembered primarily because he ducked down below the lights and camera to grab a drink of water. :lamo

That is kind of terrible that speeches are remembered for the silliest things, but then again why wasn't that stool and water right below the camera so he could reach down while still talking and barely miss a beat to drink.
 
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That's because Democrats jack up corporate taxes to the highest level worldwide. But don't let any facts get in the way of your favorite meme.

It's interesting, you blame democrats for raising corporate tax rates, but Republicans controlled the Presidency, the House, and the Senate for quite a while. They managed to push through some pretty big income tax cuts. But they never seemed interested in lowering corporate tax rates. They complain about them when they are out of power, but didn't do anything about them when they were in power.

Also, President Obama suggested lowering corporate tax rates and simplifying the tax code such that we could see revenues fairly neutral. That would seem like something Republicans in the House would have jumped all over (rhetorically), but they didn't.

So we have this ridiculous corporate tax code, and the only people who benefit are giant corporations with huge accounting departments and very influential lobbyists, and neither Republicans nor Democrats seemed actually interested in changing it.

But you want to blame the Democrats?

Blame the way we pay for elections and blame the way politicians pay for their lavish lifestyles out of lobbyists wallets.

Or, just keep doing what the lobbyists want you to do and pretend the problem with our country is democrat versus republican instead of lobbyists and campaign funders versus the American people.
 
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What a speech! As Jerry Lee Lewis would say,

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Follow that Killer!
 
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It's interesting, you blame democrats for raising corporate tax rates, but Republicans controlled the Presidency, the House, and the Senate for quite a while. They managed to push through some pretty big income tax cuts. But they never seemed interested in lowering corporate tax rates....

Perhaps you weren't paying attention:

Bush quietly signs corporate tax-cut bill - Business - Stocks & economy | NBC News

Of course the Democrats had Congressional majority '08-'10 including the Whitehouse...did I miss them addressing the corporate rate?
 
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Rubio's speech will be remembered primarily because he ducked down below the lights and camera to grab a drink of water. :lamo

You have to focus on water because you can't handle the fact his speech blew Obama's out of the water
 
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To be fair, people who make $9 an hour don't pay much taxes. So as a revenue generator, it's pretty doubtful.

In a world where a cup of coffee at a restaurant is $2.50, $9 isn't very much money at all.

So, I GUESS you're saying that if a person makes MORE money, since the government gets a PERCENTAGE of their earnings, the government DOESN'T GET MORE MONEY?????

I won't call you an idiot, but you really need to think about calling other people liars without engaging your brain first....
 
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Perhaps you weren't paying attention:

Bush quietly signs corporate tax-cut bill - Business - Stocks & economy | NBC News

Of course the Democrats had Congressional majority '08-'10 including the Whitehouse...did I miss them addressing the corporate rate?

Did you read what you posted? It was exactly, precisely, specifically, more of the same garbage that makes up the corporate tax code now, more complexity, more accountants needed, more giveaways to the giant corporations, and nothing on the marginal rates to allow regular small and medium companies to just do their business, make their profits, pay a reasonable rate, and grow America.

You said Democrats "jacked up corporate taxes to the highest level worldwide", so I ask you, did GWB do anything to make our corporate taxes something other than the highest worldwide?

Seriously, our corporate taxes are horrible, but my statement stands, Republicans have done NOTHING to make them less horrible.

"Obama has called for review of the corporate tax code - including lowering the top corporate tax rate to 28 percent from 35 percent, to be paid for by closing business tax breaks."

THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTIVE, but of course, Republicans oppose it.
 
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To be fair, people who make $9 an hour don't pay much taxes. So as a revenue generator, it's pretty doubtful.

In a world where a cup of coffee at a restaurant is $2.50, $9 isn't very much money at all.

Actually, when you consider just HOW many people make minimum wage, it's quite a windfall for the government nationally..

And when you consider everyone who's making slightly ABOVE minimum wage is going to want an increase too, it tends to raise wages for most folks on the bottom edge of the wage scale.

Of course, the INTELLIGENT thing to do would be to LIMIT THE NUMBER of lower wage workers, by sealing the border, and stopping the hiring of illegals.

That would NATURALLY raise wages, as competition for them would increase....

That's why Wall Mart is paying 12 an hour entry level in some of the new oil boom towns in the west.

Labor competition.

Great place to go for ANYONE out of work right now.
 
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OK, I see your point. Isn't that a good thing though? Wouldn't more wages be good for business as well as the government? Consumers gotta consume.


Actually, when you consider just HOW many people make minimum wage, it's quite a windfall for the government nationally..

And when you consider everyone who's making slightly ABOVE minimum wage is going to want an increase too, it tends to raise wages for most folks on the bottom edge of the wage scale.

Of course, the INTELLIGENT thing to do would be to LIMIT THE NUMBER of lower wage workers, by sealing the border, and stopping the hiring of illegals.

That would NATURALLY raise wages, as competition for them would increase....

That's why Wall Mart is paying 12 an hour entry level in some of the new oil boom towns in the west.

Labor competition.

Great place to go for ANYONE out of work right now.
 
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The best thing was the $9 an hour thing. It would be a huge deal on several levels.
 
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OK, I see your point. Isn't that a good thing though? Wouldn't more wages be good for business as well as the government? Consumers gotta consume.

And businesses have to make a profit....

The increased expenses in wages would be offset by an increase in prices.

The rest of us would wind up paying more.

In addition, with all the money that's been printed, inflation, which is already going to take off when the banks start lending again and it "gains velocity," will REALLY take off.
 
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The best thing was the $9 an hour thing. It would be a huge deal on several levels.

That is the sum total of the hope you get from Obama, Nine bucks an hour.

The real tragedy is that the loons think that's great. We're in tall cotton now!
 
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The rest of us would wind up paying more..


Why are you opposed to paying those at the bottom of the pay scale a wage that they might be able to survive on?

Did you ever hear of Henry Ford? Ninety nine years ago in January, 1914 Ford raised the pay of his workers to $5.00 a day.

He reasoned that since, because of his innovations, it was now possible to build inexpensive cars in volume, more of them could be sold if employees could afford to buy them. The $5 day helped better the lot of all American workers and contributed to the emergence of the American middle class. In the process. Ford had changed manufacturing forever.

More here:Henry Ford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unfortunately most of you people on the right just don't understand how the economy works.

Have a nice day.



"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
 
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Why are you opposed to paying those at the bottom of the pay scale a wage that they might be able to survive on?
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I suppose if I were in the White House for four years and most of the new jobs that were created during my first term in the White House were unskilled, low paying minimum wage jobs, I also would call for raising the minimum wage.

But come on, getting paid $9. per hour for cleaning toilets and flipping burgers !
 
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The best thing was the $9 an hour thing. It would be a huge deal on several levels.

It would crowd out minorities and young people trying to enter the Labor Market

It would be a horrible thing

Why are you opposed to paying those at the bottom of the pay scale a wage that they might be able to survive on?

Did you ever hear of Henry Ford? Ninety nine years ago in January, 1914 Ford raised the pay of his workers to $5.00 a day.

He reasoned that since, because of his innovations, it was now possible to build inexpensive cars in volume, more of them could be sold if employees could afford to buy them. The $5 day helped better the lot of all American workers and contributed to the emergence of the American middle class. In the process. Ford had changed manufacturing forever.

More here:Henry Ford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unfortunately most of you people on the right just don't understand how the economy works.

Have a nice day.



"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.

The minimum wage is not supposed to be a "living wage"

It is supposed to be an entry level wage for young people entering the labor market who have no skills and no experience
 
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Obama was demonstrating one of his shovel-ready jobs last night, shoveling bull ****.
 
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Why are you opposed to paying those at the bottom of the pay scale a wage that they might be able to survive on?

Did you ever hear of Henry Ford? Ninety nine years ago in January, 1914 Ford raised the pay of his workers to $5.00 a day.

He reasoned that since, because of his innovations, it was now possible to build inexpensive cars in volume, more of them could be sold if employees could afford to buy them. The $5 day helped better the lot of all American workers and contributed to the emergence of the American middle class. In the process. Ford had changed manufacturing forever.

More here:Henry Ford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unfortunately most of you people on the right just don't understand how the economy works.

Have a nice day.



"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.

Lefty myths of our time: why Henry Ford's 'pay rise' for workers undermines the Living Wage campaign – Telegraph Blogs

Ford didnt raise his wage for charity or so his workers could buy his cars. He did it to stop them from quitting and having to retrain new workers.
 
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