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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Martin Luther was heretical for completely ignoring tradition.
    Tradition that is not scripturally correct IS heretical.
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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    You're ignorant of the Church if you think nothing has changed. Massive reforms have been instituted to prevent this from ever happening again.

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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    Tradition that is not scripturally correct IS heretical.
    I always got the impression from reading the Bible that it was written by human beings and not very physically attractive human beings ........................

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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I always got the impression from reading the Bible that it was written by human beings and not very physically attractive human beings ........................
    I'm asking this question in all seriousness.... are you on drugs or drunk? I only ask this because your posts are only barely related to the actual discourse of the thread and sometimes... your replies just sound you aren't really on the same level as us. You know... like you're on a 'higher' level.
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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I'm guessing you tried to receive the Eucharist.
    No... It was when I joined the military. Every one had to attend church. Since I didn't know if there was an Orthodox church on the base, I attended the Catholic Church. They locked the doors and made everyone confess. I had never confessed in my life. We were escorted to a room with multiple chairs and tables where multiple priest were taking confessions with only a screen divider on the table separating the priests from the soldiers.

    A gray haired, bearded priest welcomed me, and in so many words said I could start confessing. I told him that I didn't have anything to confess. He looked at me through the screen, and said, "oh yes you do"... I knew that I wasn't getting out of there until I confessed something so, I said," well I do have one thing to confess ". He smiled, put his ear back to the screen, and I said," I'm Greek Orthodox, and I don't think I'm supposed to be here ". All of a sudden, his fist slammed on the table, he jumped to his feet, and yelled..." YOU'RE WHAT!!! ". As I tried to melt into the floor, he caught himself, and in a calmer voice said in so many words, that there was an Orthodox church 10 miles away, (mind you, it was over 100 degrees Texas heat. I thanked him, and crawled out the door. I've always wondered what the other soldiers thought... What in the world kind of heinous crime I could have done... But I'll never know.

    There was a time, (and its still the case), that the Eastern Orthodox Church, and the Western Catholic Church didn't, and doesn't, get along. If you want to know the history of the conflict, it will take research, of not only church history, but history books as well. Even then, as with all conflicts, I doubt the causes could ever explain the reasons for the schism.

    The main reason that I've been told was the demand of the Roman Catholic Churches demand that the Orthodox East agree to the Pope's Claim of infallibility.

    When the demand was vehemently denied by Constantinople... All help against the Turkish Muslim's was denied by the Pope, and Constantinople fell. Without theological competition... The Vatican Cities power went unchallenged, until Martin Luther.
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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm asking this question in all seriousness.... are you on drugs or drunk? I only ask this because your posts are only barely related to the actual discourse of the thread and sometimes... your replies just sound you aren't really on the same level as us. You know... like you're on a 'higher' level.


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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    There's no verbiage that's going to satisfy those predisposed to hate the church. No amount of mea culpa, no dollar figure will be enough. Good thing that God is the one from whom forgiveness flows.


    The men in dresses who rule the Catholic Church and covered up and let abuse happen need a lot of forgiveness for their many sins.

    I vote that they don't get it.

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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm asking this question in all seriousness.... are you on drugs or drunk? I only ask this because your posts are only barely related to the actual discourse of the thread and sometimes... your replies just sound you aren't really on the same level as us. You know... like you're on a 'higher' level.
    Trying to figure out who wrote the Babble, I mean, Bibble, I mean , Bible, is not being on a "higher" level. It's just natural curiousity about who wrote such absolute garbage........................

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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The terrible things that the church did in the past can't be wiped out by saying, "that was long ago, we don't do that now".

    What was done can't be undone.
    That's why the concept of forgiveness is necessary.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The men in dresses who rule the Catholic Church and covered up and let abuse happen need a lot of forgiveness for their many sins.

    I vote that they don't get it.
    Then neither shall you receive forgiveness.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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