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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    And Martin Luther considered it non-scriptural and heretical.
    Oddly, the church decided hundreds of years earlier what was scriptural and nonheretical and what would be included and what would be excluded from the "Bible"....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    The current pope never had a "raping kids is okay" position. The incidents were terribly mishandled, no doubt, but the church and Ratzinger specifically never said that pedophilia was acceptable.


    I'm sure that all those who were abused find a lot of comfort in those words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I'm sure that all those who were abused find a lot of comfort in those words.
    There's no verbiage that's going to satisfy those predisposed to hate the church. No amount of mea culpa, no dollar figure will be enough. Good thing that God is the one from whom forgiveness flows.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    You got to be kidding me Martin Luther eventually broke away from the Catholic Church because it was adding things like the sale indulgences for sins and "holy" artifacts for people in purgatory. Martin Luther was more conservative than the Vatican.
    Except for his views on papal authority and the Eucharist. Other than those two apparently teeny tiny issues, he was a conservative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Then you don't know anything at all about Catholicism. A lot of Catholic beliefs follow the liberal agenda, not all of them obviously, but a lot of them.

    It doesn't change the fact that Catholics vote liberal.
    Say what? Are you aware that many of the most prominent libertarians such as Lew Rockwell, Thomas Woods, Jeffrey Tucker, and Thomas DiLorenzo are all traditional Catholics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Wonder if popes will start retiring now.
    That's a good question. Healthcare has gotten so good in recent decades that people will live to be older and older. It's quite possible that Benedict's decision could augur a future where popes are more likely to resign rather than die in office. Because news travels so fast now it's impossible to plausibly keep a long term illness or incapacitation a secret, especially in an era where a pope is expected to make frequent public appearances.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fog hit View Post
    Censorship has been done by the Catholic Church, and I'm getting censored.
    What censorship? The propaganda that the Church told the faithful not to read the Bible? Hogwash. The Church banned certain translations, but never the Bible itself. Not like it mattered anyway since most couldn't read at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fog hit View Post
    I should have said that it was a practice by the Catholic Church long ago, but not now.
    But then the list of atrocities, done by the Catholic Church long ago, no longer happen... The list would be one long ass list though.
    Indulgences still exist. The problem was simony, and that's always been illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fog hit View Post
    Remind me to tell you the story of my getting kicked out of a Catholic Church when a Priest found out that I was Greek Orthodox... That was a trip.

    See ya soon Bonz.
    I'm guessing you tried to receive the Eucharist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    And Martin Luther considered it non-scriptural and heretical.
    Martin Luther was heretical for completely ignoring tradition.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

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