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    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Funny how there was no crisis with young people until the Mass was changed to appeal to that demographic rather than staying consistent with its celebration as it had for more than a thousand years.
    And here we see a classic example of the correlation fallacy. Correlation does not mean causation. Just because two events happen in close proximity to each other does not mean one caused the other. A more likely reason young people are staying away from organized religion in droves (33% of people between 18-28 report being non-religious) is because religion in general, and perhaps Catholicism in particular, is fricking stupid.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    The "point" and/or "meaning" of religious garb is not readily apparent to me.............................


    It's all about separating them from the plebes, they can wear that stuff and you can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The Prophecy Of Popes

    This upcoming Pope is supposed to be the last.
    You don't honestly see that as true ... do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    And here we see a classic example of the correlation fallacy. Correlation does not mean causation. Just because two events happen in close proximity to each other does not mean one caused the other. A more likely reason young people are staying away from organized religion in droves (33% of people between 18-28 report being non-religious) is because religion in general, and perhaps Catholicism in particular, is fricking stupid.
    You start off with attempting to expose a fallacy only to employ hyperbole in return. Congratulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Catholics have a process called beautification, that handles all of those flaws.
    Beatification (no "u") is a designation for someone who the church believes has acheived heaven and can intercede with God on behalf of living people. It is an interim step on the path to sainthood.

    Beatification changes nothing about a person.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You start off with attempting to expose a fallacy only to employ hyperbole in return. Congratulations.
    Truth is truth whether you like it or not.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    You don't honestly see that as true ... do you?
    I'm not a Catholic, it's outside my belief system. But I do know it's a prophecy many of the faithful have been aware of, well, since the 1600s. The Church denies it, calls it divination, yet it was prophesized by one of their saints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I'm not a Catholic, it's outside my belief system. But I do know it's a prophecy many of the faithful have been aware of, well, since the 1600s. The Church denies it, calls it divination, yet it was prophesized by one of their saints.
    Well that's Catholic logic for ya
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    I think I read it reported that only Paul VI, John Paul II and Benedict XVI got past 80. .
    Leo XIII, one the more impressive figures in that position, was 93 when he died in 1903. And there were a few more.

    On the other hand, cardinals cannot join the Conclave (the body that electes the Pope) after 80.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Truth is truth whether you like it or not.
    And I can say that since most people believe in a deity, this is because atheism is "frickin stupid."

    Still sounds silly, doesn't it?
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