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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I have great difficulty respecting much of anything about an organization that won't accept birth control, and will actively speak out against it's use in this day and age.

    Then throw in the whole protect the pedophile priest thing and I'm completely out the door ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Both Catholicism and Evangelicalism share the common trait that in the modern age most of their adherents are defacto atheists: They follow religious dogma when they can harm others and give themselves a free passgo card when said dogma gets in their own way...............
    That's a challenge for humanity. I don't know why you put that at the hands of either the Evangelical Protestants or the Catholics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Any evidence for such a statement?
    Read the book of Mathew. There are numerous verses I might quote, but really, it must be taken into account in it's entirety. One quote, though...

    "I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.” Matthew 16:18

    Out of context...like I said, you gotta take the entire thing, not little pieces....but the point is, Jesus thought of "his church" as being his people, followers...not a building, and CERTAINLY not a set of traditions. Only the belief, the faith, mattered. Again, the antithesis of Catholicism.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    But Catholicism has evolved since it started. It isn't a monolithic structure that has avoided change. Far from it. It's a matter of determining the right sort of change.
    That they are proving, more and more so, these days, to be incapable of doing.


    Change is happening faster, and it's only going to get faster.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. E View Post


    Mighty sad. The old men in dresses who covered up the abuse are just as guilty as those who committed it. The Pope was one of those men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    That they are proving, more and more so, these days, to be incapable of doing.


    Change is happening faster, and it's only going to get faster.
    20 years is a drop in the bucket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Again, the crisis precedes the (recent) child abuse scandal.
    Indeed.


    What does this even mean?
    The message has been lost, and it has been lost for QUITE some time now. Lost to dogma.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Dominus vobiscum
    I refuse to call any man Dominus
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    That's a challenge for humanity. I don't know why you put that at the hands of either the Evangelical Protestants or the Catholics.
    If you want to widen the scope of who that applies to, more power to you. Outside of "motherhood", it's difficult to see any evidence of human life consisting of anything beyond just a raw struggle for existence............

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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    While the current percentage of cardinals who are Italian is lower than it was in the past, there are still way too many Italian cardinals.

    Italy, with about 53 million Catholics, has 50 cardinals - 22 are over 80 years old, so Italy has 28 votes. The USA, with about 74 million Catholics, has 19 cardinals, 8 are over 80 years old, so the USA has 11 votes. Italy has 2 1/2 times as many votes as the USA. How is that fair?

    It looks to me like the Catholic church slows unreasonable favoritism towards Italy. Many other heavily Catholic countries also have a smaller number of cardinals than they should have, based on numbers of Catholics. Brazil, for example, has the largest number of Catholics of any country, 123 million, yet it has only 9 cardinals, 4 are over 80 years old.

    I guess that the old men in dresses in Italy play the game the way that they want.

    Not my problem since I am no longer a Catholic.



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    Hm. Interesting. I wonder if something that might be considered is the Catholic influence in a country.
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