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    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Kinda hard to hold your head up when you got angry, sex-abused souls staring at you in disgust
    And then the harshness began, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Why would they do that? Most Catholics are liberal. A even greater majority of them would be liberal if not for the abortion issue.
    If you believe Roman Catholicism has anything at all to do with liberalism, you don't know the definition of liberalism.

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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Listen, fact of the matter is, Catholics are "less catholic" because....Catholicism is failing to change with the times. That's reality. Leviticus? Gonna have to change, I'm sorry to say. Or be interpreted differently than it has been for the past thousand years or so. Job? Not jiving too well with today's parents. Noah's Ark? Peta has issues with any god that would kill so many animals, regardless of the issue. The old testament is just that...old and out dated. But it's the word of god, and therefor, infalible, which is the stance the Catholic church has taken, more so than the other judeo christian denominations. It's why Martin Luther left in the first place.
    There was no crisis in the Church in the thoroughly modern 1940s or 1950s. Things didn't start deteriorating until the liturgy deteriorated.

    If you want the Church to imitate the world, then what's the point? The world is always going to be better at that than the Church. The Church has to offer something different if it is going to stay relevant. Remember, the New Testament constantly reminds us that Christians will be hated by the world.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

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    Re: Pope resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Unlike in North America, the majority of Catholics in Central and Southern America are more trusting of the leadership - so far.
    Yeah, I can see how that works out with those Cartels that give heavily to the Church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    The majority of Catholics in America voted for President Obama, we're fairly liberal in the US.
    Obama is not a liberal. A casual look at his record shows he merely masqueraded as a liberal to get elected, then pissed all over the Constitution once in office.

    In the last two Presidential elections, O was nothing more than the lesser of two evils.

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    phattonez;1061454140]There was no crisis in the Church in the thoroughly modern 1940s or 1950s. Things didn't start deteriorating until the liturgy deteriorated.
    Hah. The 40's and 50's gave rise to evangelicals. Not Catholics, to be sure. NON traditional. And that's the direction christians are going now...non traditional. Catholics can embrace that, or deny it, and watch their numbers dwindle.
    If you want the Church to imitate the world, then what's the point? The world is always going to be better at that than the Church. The Church has to offer something different if it is going to stay relevant. Remember, the New Testament constantly reminds us that Christians will be hated by the world.
    The new testament does this only because Christianity is spread and propogated by martyrdom. Persecution. And yet, in it's history, has catholicism been the the persecuted....or has it been, more often, the persecutor?

    CHRISTIANITY will survive the world's changes....Catholicism will not.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    There was no crisis in the Church in the thoroughly modern 1940s or 1950s. Things didn't start deteriorating until the liturgy deteriorated.

    If you want the Church to imitate the world, then what's the point? The world is always going to be better at that than the Church. The Church has to offer something different if it is going to stay relevant. Remember, the New Testament constantly reminds us that Christians will be hated by the world.
    All the Church needs to do is speak the truth in love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah, I can see how that works out with those Cartels that give heavily to the Church.
    One could argue that the Catholic Church is the world's largest cartel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Hah. The 40's and 50's gave rise to evangelicals. Not Catholics, to be sure. NON traditional. And that's the direction christians are going now...non traditional. Catholics can embrace that, or deny it, and watch their numbers dwindle.
    The Church has tried being liberal in its Mass for the past 50 years. The result? A huge crisis. Btw, Evangelicals started in the 1800s with the Methodists. And how have the Anglicans been doing with their liberal push? Most are becoming Catholic.

    The new testament does this only because Christianity is spread and propogated by martyrdom. Persecution. And yet, in it's history, has catholicism been the the persecuted....or has it been, more often, the persecutor?
    You mean when the Church built the hospitals and the universities in the Middle Ages? That "evil" Church?

    CHRISTIANITY will survive the world's changes....Catholicism will not.
    Where the faith is steeped in tradition, it grows tremendously. Where it has been abandoned, a crisis has ensued.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

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    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    All the Church needs to do is speak the truth in love.
    The truth is not popular with the children of the world.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

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