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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, isn't that convenient for you...I say that liberals attacked Dr. Carson, you ask for names, I give you one, and as usual you dismiss it immediately....Sorry Joe, that is simply just too dishonest for me to continue with you....It's a waste of time to discuss anything with an ideologue such as yourself because you will constantly play the silly game of asking your opponent to meet a burden of proof that you yourself don't have to show...I'm not doing it anymore.
    I expected you to actually give me something. He's a paid liberal on Fox paid to play the fool. Do you seriously believe he speaks for any thinking liberal?

    J, this is not a game on my part. It is a serious critique. Using entertainers who are paid to manipulate conservative sheep is not the way present a serious argument. I'm still waiting for you to present something real.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

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    non-sequitor noted
    oh please....Facts are facts....Can't do nuthin' bout that.....
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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I expected you to actually give me something. He's a paid liberal on Fox paid to play the fool. Do you seriously believe he speaks for any thinking liberal?

    J, this is not a game on my part. It is a serious critique. Using entertainers who are paid to manipulate conservative sheep is not the way present a serious argument. I'm still waiting for you to present something real.

    "Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) -- said his speech was too political for a religious event like a prayer breakfast."

    Dr. Ben Carson: White House asked for advance copy of speech, request denied - National Social Issues | Examiner.com

    How 'bout Jan Schakowsky? She a paid clown too, other than being who she is, that is....

    “Our politics have become so polarized and corrupted that a president of the United States cannot even attend an event devoted to drawing people closer to God and bridge partisan and cultural divides without being lectured about his policies,” wrote Cal Thomas

    Dr. Ben Carson Blasted for Attacking Obama Policies at Nat. Prayer Breakfast | The Afro-American Newspapers | Your Community. Your History. Your News.

    "We can have a meaningful debate over whether or not Carson’s policy ideas will work. The content of his proposals having nothing to do with why I was bothered by the speech. I was troubled by the speech for three main reasons:
    1. As Stackhouse notes, Carson used his speech at the NATIONAL PRAYER BREAKFAST to talk about health-care and other controversial topics that tend to divide rather than unite. Such a speech was inappropriate on such an occasion. I might add that conservative columnist Cal Thomas is with us on this point.
    2. Carson disrespected the office of the President of the United States with his speech. There is a time and a place to criticize the president’s policies and a prayer breakfast is not one of them. Again, I agree with Thomas: Carson owes Obama an apology.
    3. At the end of his speech Carson told a patriotic story about the War of 1812 and the bombing of Fort McHenry. In the process he came very close to duplicating the historical error made a couple of years ago by evangelical pastor Dudley Rutherford.
    Carson defends the speech here, claiming that “someone has to be courageous enough to actually stand up to, you know, the bullies.” I don’t disagree, but not at a prayer breakfast. He also claims that his position on health care “comes from the Bible.” I was unaware that the Bible offered a specific health care plan."

    - See more at: Some Thoughts on Dr. Ben Carson’s Prayer Breakfast Speech

    There you have a few libs using the event to attack the dissent, and shelter the do nothing, failure we today call President. I assume you have google...Look the rest up yourself.
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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    "Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) -- said his speech was too political for a religious event like a prayer breakfast."

    Dr. Ben Carson: White House asked for advance copy of speech, request denied - National Social Issues | Examiner.com

    How 'bout Jan Schakowsky? She a paid clown too, other than being who she is, that is....

    “Our politics have become so polarized and corrupted that a president of the United States cannot even attend an event devoted to drawing people closer to God and bridge partisan and cultural divides without being lectured about his policies,” wrote Cal Thomas

    Dr. Ben Carson Blasted for Attacking Obama Policies at Nat. Prayer Breakfast | The Afro-American Newspapers | Your Community. Your History. Your News.

    "We can have a meaningful debate over whether or not Carson’s policy ideas will work. The content of his proposals having nothing to do with why I was bothered by the speech. I was troubled by the speech for three main reasons:
    1. As Stackhouse notes, Carson used his speech at the NATIONAL PRAYER BREAKFAST to talk about health-care and other controversial topics that tend to divide rather than unite. Such a speech was inappropriate on such an occasion. I might add that conservative columnist Cal Thomas is with us on this point.
    2. Carson disrespected the office of the President of the United States with his speech. There is a time and a place to criticize the president’s policies and a prayer breakfast is not one of them. Again, I agree with Thomas: Carson owes Obama an apology.
    3. At the end of his speech Carson told a patriotic story about the War of 1812 and the bombing of Fort McHenry. In the process he came very close to duplicating the historical error made a couple of years ago by evangelical pastor Dudley Rutherford.
    Carson defends the speech here, claiming that “someone has to be courageous enough to actually stand up to, you know, the bullies.” I don’t disagree, but not at a prayer breakfast. He also claims that his position on health care “comes from the Bible.” I was unaware that the Bible offered a specific health care plan."

    - See more at: Some Thoughts on Dr. Ben Carson’s Prayer Breakfast Speech

    There you have a few libs using the event to attack the dissent, and shelter the do nothing, failure we today call President. I assume you have google...Look the rest up yourself.
    The fact you're working so hard and off your claim shows how wrong your claim was. Your claim (post 174):

    He (Dr. Carson) was ripped in the liberal media.

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    Nothing new here, a conservative, or free market African American speaks out, and is immediately attacked.
    In post 180, you specified reporting. This claims requires as support a significant part of the media criticsing Dr. Carson.

    Re. Schakowsky is not the media. And the only criticism there was the venue and not the message.

    Your other article is not even mainstream, and hardly anything that would be supportive of your claim. Yes, you can find someone who says anything. But you made an overriding claim that the "liberal media" attacked the dissent. You have not demonstrated this is true or significant.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    There you have a few libs using the event to attack the dissent, and shelter the do nothing, failure we today call President. I assume you have google...Look the rest up yourself.
    Gee, what a blistering "attack"!!

    You'd think a guy who gave a speech on political correctness could handle criticism, but I guess the rightwingers who support him can't handle it.
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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    He isn't worth listening to and doesn't represent the news media. He plays a character in order to illicit controversy and rabid response. Anyone reacting to these types of entertainers, be they left or right, are part of the problem, not the solution.
    Haha! That's funny right there.
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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You'd think a guy who gave a speech on political correctness could handle criticism...
    The doctor has handled it just fine.
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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The doctor has handled it just fine.
    true, because the anti-PC whinings of the Dr and his supporters are a "fine" way to demonstrate their support for speech that isn't politically correct
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Skunked_Ape View Post
    Haha! That's funny right there.
    But accurate all the same.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The doctor has handled it just fine.
    Respectful treatment, which is what he's actually seen, is fairly easy to handle.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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