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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Well, now we know how to get the progressives to be reverent about prayer.
    Not sure what you mean by that. People of all political stripes pray and belong to religions groups.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Perhaps, unless one isn't taking the other into account.


    But, do consider that if more available employment for poor teenagers means that less of them stay out of jail, that is huge savings from prison costs, and potentially future welfare costs.

    Not to mention, it would inject money into the economy of poor neighborhoods. Why? Lower business costs means more businesses can survive, which opens up more employment opportunities. This means that both the small business owner and the employees now can make a wage, even if neither is very much. Wages grow when the demand for labor exceeds the supply of unemployed. So to me, its only common sense that we should be maximizing employment, and over the long term wages will take care of itself. It doesn't work the other way around.
    That is assuming one means the other. Knew a few young men who worked minimum wage jobs but found crime more lucrative.

    Cost and spending go hand in hand. If no one can buy, costs mean far less. Nor is there evidence wages take care of themselves. Our history is full of underpaying.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That is assuming one means the other. Knew a few young men who worked minimum wage jobs but found crime more lucrative.

    Cost and spending go hand in hand. If no one can buy, costs mean far less. Nor is there evidence wages take care of themselves. Our history is full of underpaying.
    Yet, when one looks at everything as a whole, wages rose over time even before the strong labor unions.
    Employers pay what it costs to replace a worker. And if we have full employment, finding a worker to replace another is much more harder, and therefore wages go up.

    My point is this. Full employment is more important than wages. Increasing wages doesn't lead to full employment; but full employment does lead to increases in wages.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

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    Yet, when one looks at everything as a whole, wages rose over time even before the strong labor unions.
    Employers pay what it costs to replace a worker. And if we have full employment, finding a worker to replace another is much more harder, and therefore wages go up.

    My point is this. Full employment is more important than wages. Increasing wages doesn't lead to full employment; but full employment does lead to increases in wages.
    I'll have to check that, but I see employers going to more part time and less full time, for example, fighting unions, and doing everything they can to pat less. And no, full employment where people work fr less than a living wage is not desirable, let alone more desirable. And neither absolute you suggest is likely true. If business can employ more for peanuts, they will, raising nothing.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Yet, when one looks at everything as a whole, wages rose over time even before the strong labor unions.
    Employers pay what it costs to replace a worker. And if we have full employment, finding a worker to replace another is much more harder, and therefore wages go up.

    My point is this. Full employment is more important than wages. Increasing wages doesn't lead to full employment; but full employment does lead to increases in wages.
    That was until employers discovered "illegals"------You know, those people they could whine about "liberals" letting into the country and who they fall all over themselves to hire ?......................

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    That was until employers discovered "illegals"------You know, those people they could whine about "liberals" letting into the country and who they fall all over themselves to hire ?......................
    Well, before them there was slavery, children, share cropping, and minorities.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

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    Well, before them there was slavery, children, share cropping, and minorities.
    Correct. I was just pointing out the newest venue for labor exploitation......................

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'll have to check that, but I see employers going to more part time and less full time, for example, fighting unions, and doing everything they can to pat less. And no, full employment where people work fr less than a living wage is not desirable, let alone more desirable. And neither absolute you suggest is likely true. If business can employ more for peanuts, they will, raising nothing.
    It wasn't always fighting to pay them less. One of the worst strikes, the Homestead Strike, happened because the union wanted double the 30% increase in wages that Andrew Carnegie had offered. So Carnegie allowed his number two to attempt to bust the union while he was away in Europe.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    That was until employers discovered "illegals"------You know, those people they could whine about "liberals" letting into the country and who they fall all over themselves to hire ?......................
    Well, the guy who wanted to crack down on those hiring practices lost the election.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Well, the guy who wanted to crack down on those hiring practices lost the election.


    I doubt the sincerity. Off topic, have you seen Atlas Shrugged II ?...........................

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