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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Except Obama to people like you who then attack the character of anyone who questions him
    Haven't done anything if the kind. Many reasonable people question him. And I treat them reasonably. So do others. Unreasonable people should expect to be called on it.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

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    Sure. You can hire slaves cheaper and have more of them. But if we want more teens working, and not adults making a decent living, we can do that. But is that really our goal? We can grow the gap even more between rich and poor, what a friend of mine calls the Mexicanization of America, and he isn't talking about immigration at all.
    I'd say, for poor minority neighborhoods, yes it should be. Because teenagers working means teenagers not in jail.


    Besides, maximizing employment increases AD, and increases in AD increases wages.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

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    I'd say, for poor minority neighborhoods, yes it should be. Because teenagers working means teenagers not in jail.


    Besides, maximizing employment increases AD, and increases in AD increases wages.
    Not sure that is true. Nor am I sure what the effect is of Dad not making a living wage. I would be interested in any objective studies on the matter. However, isn't the increase in minimum wage more thing proposed and not something we've live the past four plus type ear with?


    I also note this opinion:


    But such dire predictions have never materialized. That's because they're bogus. In fact, raising the minimum wage is good for business and the overall economy. Why? Because when poor workers have more money to spend, they spend it, almost entirely in the local community, on basic necessities like housing, food, clothing and transportation. When consumer demand grows, businesses thrive, earn more profits, and create more jobs. Economists call this the "multiplier effect." According to Doug Hall of the Economic Policy Institute, a minimum wage hike to $9 would pump $21 billion into the economy.

    Peter Dreier: Raising the Minimum Wage Is Good for Business (But the Corporate Lobby Doesn't Think So)

    I'm interested on that thought as well.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

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    Not sure that is true. Nor am I sure what the effect is of Dad not making a living wage. I would be interested in any objective studies on the matter. However, isn't the increase in minimum wage more thing proposed and not something we've live the past four plus type ear with?


    I also note this opinion:


    But such dire predictions have never materialized. That's because they're bogus. In fact, raising the minimum wage is good for business and the overall economy. Why? Because when poor workers have more money to spend, they spend it, almost entirely in the local community, on basic necessities like housing, food, clothing and transportation. When consumer demand grows, businesses thrive, earn more profits, and create more jobs. Economists call this the "multiplier effect." According to Doug Hall of the Economic Policy Institute, a minimum wage hike to $9 would pump $21 billion into the economy.

    Peter Dreier: Raising the Minimum Wage Is Good for Business (But the Corporate Lobby Doesn't Think So)

    I'm interested on that thought as well.
    Usually daddy isn't around, so if anything, little Johnny being able to get a job would help mommy out.

    Either way, I'm quite convinced that having employment early on in life helps teach skills that make one able to earn higher wages later on in life.


    Also, the study I posted was from the EPI as well. So it seems as if we are seeing conflicting theories from them. I'd like to know how they got the $21B, if that was from actual models taking all things into account, or if they simply added the increase to every minimum wage worker and assumed that all things are created equal. You're quote from the Huntington Post is purposely a vague talking point.
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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Haven't done anything if the kind. Many reasonable people question him. And I treat them reasonably. So do others. Unreasonable people should expect to be called on it.
    So you agree it's not fair to label someone racist for disagreeing with a black man's politics yes?

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

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    Usually daddy isn't around, so if anything, little Johnny being able to get a job would help mommy out.

    Either way, I'm quite convinced that having employment early on in life helps teach skills that make one able to earn higher wages later on in life.


    Also, the study I posted was from the EPI as well. So it seems as if we are seeing conflicting theories from them. I'd like to know how they got the $21B, if that was from actual models taking all things into account, or if they simply added the increase to every minimum wage worker and assumed that all things are created equal. You're quote from the Huntington Post is purposely a vague talking point.
    I also hunk it is mistaken to think we have nothing else for little John. We might try educating th few who MIGHT not get then minimum wage job.

    Also, neither bit of information contradicts the other, so both might be true.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

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    So you agree it's not fair to label someone racist for disagreeing with a black man's politics yes?
    Mere disagreement? Certainly not. However, some silliness like the birther nonsense might rise the question.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The other day I herd Rush commenting the Obama was looking down in disgrace
    at the mention of health savings accounts......Obama was looking down because he was texting. I know that look, when you phone vibrate and you want to be discreet. You can see the right arm retrieve it from his pocket. When Obama was don, he put his phone up on the table.
    Yea, texting the NYT's and MSNBC co-ordinates on Dr Carsons residence, and then a quick text to Eric Holder " let's get this brother back on the reservation" by any means necessary.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
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    disagreement? Certainly not. However, some silliness like the birther nonsense might rise the question.
    Well, now we know how to get the progressives to be reverent about prayer.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I also hunk it is mistaken to think we have nothing else for little John. We might try educating th few who MIGHT not get then minimum wage job.

    Also, neither bit of information contradicts the other, so both might be true.
    Perhaps, unless one isn't taking the other into account.


    But, do consider that if more available employment for poor teenagers means that less of them stay out of jail, that is huge savings from prison costs, and potentially future welfare costs.

    Not to mention, it would inject money into the economy of poor neighborhoods. Why? Lower business costs means more businesses can survive, which opens up more employment opportunities. This means that both the small business owner and the employees now can make a wage, even if neither is very much. Wages grow when the demand for labor exceeds the supply of unemployed. So to me, its only common sense that we should be maximizing employment, and over the long term wages will take care of itself. It doesn't work the other way around.

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