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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    I was Dr. Carson's neighbor until I was 13 years old. I walked home from school with his youngest son, Royce, every day for quite a while. He is a very religious person, but above anything else, he is respectful of others and a seemingly humble person for a man of his caliber. I don't like seeing people trying to throw him into this category of being some religious nut. People are so quick to do that to anyone who mentions religion. His faith is strong, and he attributes his strength to God. God or no God, that man has an amazing level of personal conviction towards being successful that most of us will never have, and if religion is what gives him that strength, I say more power to him.

    If anyone is curious about what kind of person he is, if it isn't obvious, he is sort of soft spoken which comes across in his speech, but I never remember him having a great deal to say casually. I closed the Sabbath with him and his family a few times; what they would do is open proverbs and each pick one that they liked, read it, and say what they thought it meant in their own words. Then they would each take turns saying a prayer. This was awkward for me because I was not raised to be religious, and I was not used to praying, so I did not, and they were okay with that. I did not feel like I was looked down on by Dr. Carson or his family for it. My point is, he has respect for everyone's faith and opinions, and if you ever have the chance to meet him I'm sure you would sense his humbleness.

    Keep in mind: He is a doctor, not a politician!
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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Thank you very much for sharing your first-hand testimony. I hope it will give many pause for thought.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryanm View Post
    I was Dr. Carson's neighbor until I was 13 years old. I walked home from school with his youngest son, Royce, every day for quite a while. He is a very religious person, but above anything else, he is respectful of others and a seemingly humble person for a man of his caliber. I don't like seeing people trying to throw him into this category of being some religious nut. People are so quick to do that to anyone who mentions religion. His faith is strong, and he attributes his strength to God. God or no God, that man has an amazing level of personal conviction towards being successful that most of USO will never have, and if religion is what gives him that strength, I say more power to him.

    If anyone is curious about what kind of person he is, if it isn't obvious, he is sort of soft spoken which comes across in his speech, but I never remember him having a great deal to say casually. I closed the Sabbath with him and his family a few times; what they would do is open proverbs and each pick one that they liked, read it, and say what they thought it meant in their own words. Then they would each take turns saying a prayer. This was awkward for me because I was not raised to be religious, and I was not used to praying, so I did not, and they were okay with that. I did not feel like I was looked down on by Dr. Carson or his family for it. My point is, he has respect for everyone's faith and opinions, and if you ever have the chance to meet him I'm sure you would sense his humbleness.

    Keep in mind: He is a doctor, not a politician!
    I don't think many of us are doubting his character. Even very good people can be wrong on any issue.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    I'm not focusing on any of his opinions. What I am saying is that we shouldn't be so quick to throw people into these generic groupings. ie. likes to shoot = crazy gun nut, is religious = bible thumping bigot, etc.
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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryanm View Post
    I'm not focusing on any of his opinions. What I am saying is that we shouldn't be so quick to throw people into these generic groupings. ie. likes to shoot = crazy gun nut, is religious = bible thumping bigot, etc.
    I don't disagree. Like I said, I see few if any criticizing his character.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't think many of us are doubting his character. Even very good people can be wrong on any issue.
    Why are you assuming he is wrong.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Why are you assuming he is wrong.
    There is much evidence showing he us wrong. I listed some earlier.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I wanted to answer you first before I looked for support, so here is my continuation. I said this earlier:

    Black Unemployment Crisis: Loss Of Government Jobs Hurts African Americans Hardest

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    The disproportionate vulnerability of African American employees to the impacts of government budget cuts helps explain why black workers have fared so much worse than other slices of the population since the recession’s end.

    Black Unemployment Crisis: Loss Of Government Jobs Hurts African Americans Hardest

    If true, your actually faulting Obama for doing what conservatives call for him to do.

    Here's another view:

    Five Factors Causing the ‘Decimation’ of the Black Middle Class

    Five Factors Causing the ‘Decimation’ of the Black Middle Class | DCentric

    That was just to show you can go to any political group and find an answer any ideology will like.

    The point is, you have to show how Obama is to blame for has been going on since long before him.
    Minimum wages have strongly negative effects on the employment of teenagers and minorities (African American, Hispanic, or both). The author finds that a 10% increase in the minimum wage will decrease minority employment by 3.9%, with the majority of the burden falling on minority teenagers (6.6%). Although the size of the disemployment effects for African Americans is quite large -2.8% (and even larger for African American teenagers, -8.4%), it is the statistically significant effect for Hispanics (-4.9%) that is driving these results. This supports earlier research which found that minimum wages have the largest negative effects on low-skilled employees, such as teens and minority teens.
    http://epionline.org/study_detail.cfm?sid=103

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Sure. You can hire slaves cheaper and have more of them. But if we want more teens working, and not adults making a decent living, we can do that. But is that really our goal? We can grow the gap even more between rich and poor, what a friend of mine calls the Mexicanization of America, and he isn't talking about immigration at all.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson's speech at prayer breakfast

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't think many of us are doubting his character. Even very good people can be wrong on any issue.
    Except Obama to people like you who then attack the character of anyone who questions him

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