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j-mac · Feb 8, 2013

CINCINNATI - The Hamilton County Board of Elections is investigating 19 possible cases of alleged voter fraud following months of investigation after the 2012 election.Twenty-eight subpoenas have been issued as a result of the investigation, which includes 19 Hamilton County voters and nine witnesses who still need to answer questions to satisfy the board.
The board started with 80 suspicious cases and now are down to 19. Officials say the majority of the cases turned out to be simple misunderstandings.
Melowese Richardson, a Madisonville resident, first learned of the allegations when approached by 9 On Your Side reporter Tom McKee Wednesday. Even though she admits to voting twice in the last election, she said the news came as surprise.
"I would think that something this important would come to me first and that I wouldn't have to be enlightened about this through you," said Richardson.
According to county documents, Richardson's absentee ballot was accepted on Nov. 1, 2012 along with her signature. On Nov. 11, she told an official she also voted at a precinct because she was afraid her absentee ballot would not be counted in time.
"There's absolutely no intent on my part to commit voter fraud," said Richardson.

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National Review summarizes it so:

But, of course, as you know there is no voter fraud. Pay no attention to that lightning coming out of Ohio.

The Voter Fraud That

Of course we will hear how there is no such thing as voter fraud, but funny how these things keep popping up after the election is over isn't it?

rocket88 · Feb 8, 2013

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j-mac said:
National Review summarizes it so:

Of course we will hear how there is no such thing as voter fraud, but funny how these things keep popping up after the election is over isn't it?

It does happen. Voter ID would stop as much as an assault weapons ban will.

j-mac · Feb 8, 2013

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rocket88 said:
It does happen. Voter ID would stop as much as an assault weapons ban will.

Ok, so do nothing about it eh? Good plan. :thumbsup:

rocket88 · Feb 8, 2013

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j-mac said:
Ok, so do nothing about it eh? Good plan. :thumbsup:

Isn't that the official NRA position on gun control?

Doing something about electoral fraud =/= voter ID.

j-mac · Feb 8, 2013

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rocket88 said:
Isn't that the official NRA position on gun control?

Doing something about electoral fraud =/= voter ID.

It's amazing. First post out of the gate is a deflection from you. Good grief. This isn't about gun control, it isn't about anything other than cases of voter fraud that occurred, and the mindset behind the people that did it. Can we stay on topic now?

Fisher · Feb 8, 2013

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So the party that wants to punish gun owners who have committed no crime and let the people who commit voting crimes go scot free have the moral highground :roll:

Only took two posts to derail this thread BTW

Samhain · Feb 8, 2013

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rocket88 said:
Isn't that the official NRA position on gun control?

Doing something about electoral fraud =/= voter ID.

I know! Electronic voting records! :doh

rocket88 · Feb 8, 2013

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Samhain said:
I know! Electronic voting records! :doh

OK. I'm all for stopping electoral fraud. I'm not all for the current "right-wing feel-good do-nothing" proposal.

rocket88 · Feb 8, 2013

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Fisher said:
So the party that wants to punish gun owners who have committed no crime and let the people who commit voting crimes go scot free have the moral highground :roll:

Only took two posts to derail this thread BTW

And the people that don't gun control laws that "only punish law abiding citizens" favor ID laws that only punish law abiding voters...

rocket88 · Feb 8, 2013

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j-mac said:
It's amazing. First post out of the gate is a deflection from you. Good grief. This isn't about gun control, it isn't about anything other than cases of voter fraud that occurred, and the mindset behind the people that did it. Can we stay on topic now?

Can you. I said voter ID=\= doing something about electoral fraud. Can you dispute that?

j-mac · Feb 8, 2013

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rocket88 said:
Can you. I said voter ID=\= doing something about electoral fraud. Can you dispute that?

I think that voter ID would go a long way to stemming fraud, but in this case it is more about reconciling absentee voting, with voting on election day...In what world does anyone that voted absentee, think it is ok to show up on election day and cast an in person ballot as well? Then to say:

"Absolutely. Absolutely, I'll fight it for Mr. Obama and for Mr. Obama's right to sit as president of the United States."

Obama's right? Well, if he isn't elected fairly then he has no right to sit as President, no?

rocket88 · Feb 8, 2013

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j-mac said:
I think that voter ID would go a long way to stemming fraud, but in this case it is more about reconciling absentee voting, with voting on election day...In what world does anyone that voted absentee, think it is ok to show up on election day and cast an in person ballot as well? Then to say:

"Absolutely. Absolutely, I'll fight it for Mr. Obama and for Mr. Obama's right to sit as president of the United States."

Obama's right? Well, if he isn't elected fairly then he has no right to sit as President, no?

Keep twisting me into the "typical lib" box, I'll fit eventually.

"The GOP loves voter ID, therefore I love it with all my heart. Regardless of what it will or won't fix."

ttwtt78640 · Feb 8, 2013

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j-mac said:
National Review summarizes it so:

Of course we will hear how there is no such thing as voter fraud, but funny how these things keep popping up after the election is over isn't it?

Why make voter ID less important than that for checking out a library book?

Get a Library Card

rocket88 · Feb 8, 2013

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ttwtt78640 said:
Why make voter ID less important than that for checking out a library book?

Get a Library Card

Your link didn't say a person needed photo ID to get a library card.

ttwtt78640 · Feb 8, 2013

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rocket88 said:
Your link didn't say a person needed photo ID to get a library card.

Reading is for the mental, I mean fundamental.

What kind of identification will I need to provide?Applicants over the age of 18 must provide either a driver's license or state ID card with a current address, a birthdate, and a signature. If your photo ID does not have your current address, then one of the following that shows your current address will be required:...

j-mac · Feb 8, 2013

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rocket88 said:
Your link didn't say a person needed photo ID to get a library card.

Then you didn't read it....I submit:

WHAT KIND OF IDENTIFICATION WILL I NEED TO PROVIDE?
Applicants over the age of 18 must provide either a driver's license or state ID card with a current address, a birthdate, and a signature....

Get a Library Card

rocket88 · Feb 8, 2013

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j-mac said:
Then you didn't read it....I submit:

It also lists a number of things that can be used in lieu of it.

j-mac · Feb 8, 2013

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rocket88 said:
It also lists a number of things that can be used in lieu of it.

Yes, it does. But the first and most desired by the Library system is a photo ID, with current address.

BWG · Feb 8, 2013

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ttwtt78640 said:
Readin is for the mental, I mean fundamental.

You mean like not stopping here...

then one of the following that shows your current address will be required:

...and continuing on with...

Pre-printed personal check with your name and address
Current (Less than a month old) pre-printed rent receipt or mortgage statement
Current (Less than a month old) utility bill with name and address (Utility Bills can include phone, gas, water, electric, or cable bills)
Current (Less than a month old) paycheck stub with name and address
Current (Less than a month old) bank statement with name and address
Vehicle Registration, Post Office Verification of new address, government issued IDs (military, parole, etc.), court ordered papers

rocket88 · Feb 8, 2013

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j-mac said:
Yes, it does. But the first and most desired by the Library system is a photo ID, with current address.

But you can get a library card without one.

Two words for you : Fake ID. Relatively easy to get, and really just moves electoral fraud back into an area that's easily controlled by the parties. They have the resources.

I'm good with preventing electoral fraud, but lets concentrate on actually stopping it instead of rushing into something just because one of the two parties vehemently supports it. Which is exactly what I think of assault weapons bans before you turn it back there.

j-mac · Feb 8, 2013

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rocket88 said:
But you can get a library card without one.

Two words for you : Fake ID. Relatively easy to get, and really just moves electoral fraud back into an area that's easily controlled by the parties. They have the resources.

I'm good with preventing electoral fraud, but lets concentrate on actually stopping it instead of rushing into something just because one of the two parties vehemently supports it. Which is exactly what I think of assault weapons bans before you turn it back there.

Ok, that's fair...What do you suggest with voting?

ttwtt78640 · Feb 8, 2013

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BWG said:
You mean like not stopping here...

...and continuing on with...

Those are required IN ADDITION to a valid photo ID only if that photo ID did not contain your current address.

head of joaquin · Feb 8, 2013

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j-mac said:
It's amazing. First post out of the gate is a deflection from you. Good grief. This isn't about gun control, it isn't about anything other than cases of voter fraud that occurred, and the mindset behind the people that did it. Can we stay on topic now?

This case has nothing to do with voter ID. It has to do with double voting, which is always picked up by the system. So the next question is whether the double voting is intentional, which the accused has denied.

So what discredited rightwing meme is the OP about.

head of joaquin · Feb 8, 2013

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ttwtt78640 said:
Why make voter ID less important than that for checking out a library book?

Get a Library Card

This case has nothing to do with voter ID (as no cases of fraud are -- it's virtually impossible to commit voter fraud by pretending to be somebody else, at least in any way that would affect an election).

This case is about double voting, which the system already picks up.

What is it with you tea partiers and your fetish for voter ID? Is it because the GOP commits massive registration and enrollment fraud -- the real problem you are trying to smokescreen?

j-mac · Feb 8, 2013

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head of joaquin said:
This case has nothing to do with voter ID.

Agreed

It has to do with double voting, which is always picked up by the system.

Prove it.

So the next question is whether the double voting is intentional, which the accused has denied.

Yep, there's a lot of self declared innocent people in prison too.

So what discredited rightwing meme is the OP about.

Looks like a pretty straight forward news cast to me, go back and read the link.

Is it because the GOP commits massive registration and enrollment fraud -- the real problem you are trying to smokescreen?

ACORN was a left wing group....:roll:

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