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    Lawmakers Consider Regulating Drone Strikes

    WASHINGTON (AP) — CIA Director-designate John Brennan's vigorous defense of drone strikes to kill terror suspects — even American citizens — overseas is causing key lawmakers to consider lifting secrecy from what has become an important weapon in the fight against al-Qaida.
    Brennan, President Barack Obama's top counterterror adviser, was grilled for more than three hours Thursday before the Senate Intelligence Committee on the drone program he leads, as well as on the CIA's harsh interrogation techniques during the Bush administration, which he denounced, and on leaks of classified information to the media, which Brennan vehemently denied being a part of.



    The committee's chairwoman, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., told reporters after the hearing that she wanted to open more of the program to the public so U.S. officials can acknowledge the strikes and correct what she said were exaggerated reports of civilian casualties.

    Feinstein said she and other senators were considering legislation to set up a special court system to regulate drone strikes, similar to the one that signs off on government surveillance in espionage and terrorism cases.

    Speaking with uncharacteristic openness about the classified program, Feinstein said that the CIA had allowed her staff to make more than 30 visits to the agency's northern Virginia headquarters to monitor strikes but that such transparency needed to be increased. Her comments came after the White House, under pressure from the committee, gave senators on the panel a Justice Department memo outlining the legal justification for drone strikes. But senators complained that their staff wasn't allowed to see it.

    "I think the process set up internally is a solid process," Feinstein said of the methods used to decide when to launch drones and against whom, but added: "I think there's an absence of knowing exactly who is responsible for what decision. So I think we need to look at this whole process and figure a way to make it transparent and identifiable."

    Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said his panel also had been looking at establishing a "court-like entity" to review the strikes.

    "I think the House and Senate ought to put their heads together and come up with some way to require either initially or after the fact, a review of an operation when it takes the life of an American citizen," Schiff said.....snip~

    Lawmakers consider regulating drone strikes - Yahoo! News
    <<<<< More here, way more.

    Did Brennan's Testimony prove anything about the issue of American Citizens abroad or anywhere else? Are the Democrats grandstanding over this issue? Feinstein hits the nail on the head about knowing who is exactly responsible. As Holder explained it just didn't have to be the President but any Senior officials that could make the call.

    Consider already one City has filed a resolution concerning the use of Drones over an American City. Which their idea was so that other cities would do the same thing. Which more and more of them doing so puts it on the National level. But do we need the creation of a Special Court system to Regulate Drone Strikes?

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    Lawmakers Consider Regulating Drone Strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    WASHINGTON (AP) — CIA Director-designate John Brennan's vigorous defense of drone strikes to kill terror suspects — even American citizens — overseas is causing key lawmakers to consider lifting secrecy from what has become an important weapon in the fight against al-Qaida.
    National security will be argued.


    The committee's chairwoman, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., told reporters after the hearing that she wanted to open more of the program to the public so U.S. officials can acknowledge the strikes and correct what she said were exaggerated reports of civilian casualties.
    Because if a building is blown up to kill one terrorist, the others in proximity must be terrorist not civilian.


    Did Brennan's Testimony prove anything about the issue of American Citizens abroad or anywhere else?
    You mean abroad or ON AMERICAN SOIL?!

    Are the Democrats grandstanding over this issue? Feinstein hits the nail on the head about knowing who is exactly responsible. As Holder explained it just didn't have to be the President but any Senior officials that could make the call.

    Consider already one City has filed a resolution concerning the use of Drones over an American City. Which their idea was so that other cities would do the same thing. Which more and more of them doing so puts it on the National level. But do we need the creation of a Special Court system to Regulate Drone Strikes?
    I was always saying, armed drones in the skies would be the best police force, (sarcasm)

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    Re: Lawmakers Consider Regulating Drone Strikes

    We need to decide if an undeclared "war" allows zapping folks anywhere, any time that "senior officials" deem it to be "the right thing to do". It is obvious that we will never "try" those held in Gitmo, so zap them all and save us some serious money.

    Gitmo Costs $800K/Year Per Detainee | Mother Jones
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    Re: Lawmakers Consider Regulating Drone Strikes

    obama himself needs to step out of the shadows and tell us why Gitmo is inhumane, water boarding is torture but killing suspected terrorist along with any innocent civilian in close proximity is perfectly acceptable. Don't hold your breath.

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    Re: Lawmakers Consider Regulating Drone Strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    We need to decide if an undeclared "war" allows zapping folks anywhere, any time that "senior officials" deem it to be "the right thing to do". It is obvious that we will never "try" those held in Gitmo, so zap them all and save us some serious money.

    Gitmo Costs $800K/Year Per Detainee | Mother Jones
    You know that is a good point, why not just kill these Gitmo terrorist. What is the difference with killing them in Gitmo and killing them in some house in Pakistan along with their wife and kids? It could be argued a mass Gitmo execution is far more humane with no collateral damage. Think Ill get a bumper sticker made. BOMB GITMO

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    Re: Lawmakers Consider Regulating Drone Strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    We need to decide if an undeclared "war" allows zapping folks anywhere, any time that "senior officials" deem it to be "the right thing to do". It is obvious that we will never "try" those held in Gitmo, so zap them all and save us some serious money.

    Gitmo Costs $800K/Year Per Detainee | Mother Jones
    I tottally agree that Gitmo needs to be closed and the individuals there need to be put through the legal process and go their seperate ways after that process depending on the results. Any intel these guys had is long long long past its usefulness and its a horrible example of American freedom and rule of law to show the world. Hell we even gave the Nazis a trial, not because they deserved it, but because we held ourselves to a higher standard, no so anymore it seems.

    Personally I blame the Congress for refusing to allow really any option for moving this process forward to pass, they are simply content to let these people and the whole concept of the virtues of American justice to rot until the end of time.

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    Re: Lawmakers Consider Regulating Drone Strikes

    1. No drones in the U.S., ever. None means none.
    2. No killing Americans with drones, period.
    3. Drones should only be used in war.
    4. America cannot declare acts of war on its own people. See 1 and 2.
    5. Washington must obey the Constitution. Only Congress can declare war.










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    Re: Lawmakers Consider Regulating Drone Strikes

    LOL - pass something stupid and I gaurantee you in 20 years everyone will forget about it and just ignore it because that's what washington does best . . .they'll just do it anyway. Who gives a ****.

    No one in government has the balls to stand up to the president these days with real **** like impeachment when he's a ****ing moron - or taking their power and shutting down illicit war operations that they don't agree with.

    Yeah - they can bitch all they want but they'll do little to intervene even when it's in their power and their power alone.
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    Re: Lawmakers Consider Regulating Drone Strikes

    I'd like to see improved oversight of the program.

    most of all, I'd like to see us go back to being a country for a while. we have plenty to fix here at home.

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    Re: Lawmakers Consider Regulating Drone Strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You know that is a good point, why not just kill these Gitmo terrorist. What is the difference with killing them in Gitmo and killing them in some house in Pakistan along with their wife and kids? It could be argued a mass Gitmo execution is far more humane with no collateral damage. Think Ill get a bumper sticker made. BOMB GITMO
    Drop them from 20,000 feet over the ocean and claim that they "escaped".
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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