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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    People who think the government is out to get them and need 100s of weapons and a bunker.. are not sane.
    So your definition of a survivalist is someone with "100s of weapons and a bunker"? And you think anyone who distrusts the government is not sane?

    Couldn't the inverse of your argument be made just as well. That those who put no effort into their own wellbeing and security and blindly trust the government are not sane.

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    So your definition of a survivalist is someone with "100s of weapons and a bunker"? And you think anyone who distrusts the government is not sane?

    Couldn't the inverse of your argument be made just as well. That those who put no effort into their own wellbeing and security and blindly trust the government are not sane.
    Distrusting the government is fine, but the problem comes when that person actually think the government is after them and they need to stock up on guns and grenades and rocket launchers to defend themselves against the UN and a non nondescript socialist Islamic threat and that the commander in chief is a Muslim agent. And considering the amount of people on the right who actually believe that Obama is a Muslim, then yes, there are a lot of crazies on the right.
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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    I think that, in context both currently and historically, this poll really does say something - it says that a lot of people aren't stupid, they're just lazy. How many of those feeling threatened by the government do anything about it? Sure you can hold a sign or wave your guns in the air, but at some point disillusioned people need to campaign and band together! The Tea Party did it and I think it did some good in shaking up the core conservatives, who spent (during the W Bush era) as much as Justin Bieber at the swag factory.

    But also, our rights are always at risk of being trampled on by both the public and private sectors. If you get kicked out of your house and watch it get razed, do you really care whether it was ordered by the port authority as opposed to Donald Trump? It's always going to be too-far-left vs. too-far-right and we need the scale to balance, not to tilt back to the other side.
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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

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    Or you can move to Canada. Oh wait, that's where you are already. Why would we use drones when we have plenty of black helicopters?
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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    53% are concerned. Hmm wonder what the other 47% are thinking

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    So your definition of a survivalist is someone with "100s of weapons and a bunker"? And you think anyone who distrusts the government is not sane?

    Couldn't the inverse of your argument be made just as well. That those who put no effort into their own wellbeing and security and blindly trust the government are not sane.
    I love how you right-wingers take a quote and cleverly lie about it. You must be a graduate of the Linbaugh Institute of Conservative Studies. Oh wait, there are no graduates, that's right. You must be an upperclassman in any event.

    The one you quoted said:

    People who think the government is out to get them and need 100s of weapons and a bunker.. are not sane.
    You conveniently left out two of the three characteristics, which of course makes your statement a lie.

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Is Colbert seriously saying that in order for the US to be a 'Christian Nation' it is the responsibility of the government to give out food stamps, for example?

    Christianity is a personal philosophy and as such it is the responsibility of the individual to help others in difficult times.

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I love how you right-wingers take a quote and cleverly lie about it. You must be a graduate of the Linbaugh Institute of Conservative Studies. Oh wait, there are no graduates, that's right. You must be an upperclassman in any event.

    The one you quoted said:



    You conveniently left out two of the three characteristics, which of course makes your statement a lie.
    And that makes a bog difference to you??

    The point was quite clear.

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And that makes a bog difference to you??

    The point was quite clear.
    Yes it was! The point is you basically misquoted another poster and now will not even acknowledge your error. You don't have to, the fact that you did it in the first place says enough about you already.

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