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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    What is disturbing here is you only want to blame Republicans.
    Please point out in my post where I did.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    No, it doesn't have to be this way. The congress was designed to be inhabited by honest people. We have allowed dishonest people to come to it and to stay there as a "necessary evil." Everything the congress does is for the power and control of its members. Nothing they do has anything to do with the common good.

    As an example, no intelligent, educated person can believe that spending so much that we have to borrow nearly half of it is a good thing to do. Those people aren't stupid. They know better. But they know their constituency includes the takers and will cater to them to get votes. The funny thing to me is that they could get the votes without sending us down the river. They just know that government largess has been working for them. It's our fault. We let them do it.
    You can believe that as much as you want, but you would be living in a fairy tale world.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    Play with your words all you want. Your insinuation matters, people get it, you aren't hiding anything. "oh don't blame obama oh and repubs would do the same thing"
    yada yada yada your left wing rhetoric is pathetic and easy to out. I don't care how you want to try and spin your leftist hate with a play on words. That's what giffords
    shooter did and I don't give him any respect and just lost any I had for you.

    Enjoy your games in your mind because they aren't good enough to be mind games.

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Please point out in my post where I did.

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Play with your words all you want. Your insinuation matters, people get it, you aren't hiding anything. "oh don't blame obama oh and repubs would do the same thing"
    yada yada yada your left wing rhetoric is pathetic and easy to out. I don't care how you want to try and spin your leftist hate with a play on words. That's what giffords
    shooter did and I don't give him any respect and just lost any I had for you.

    Enjoy your games in your mind because they aren't good enough to be mind games.
    Or you can't because I didn't and you don't have the stones to admit you we're wrong.

    Btw, I hold both the Democrats and Republicans responsible. Which is why I advocate more third party representation. Which I did in this very thread. If you paid adequate attention to it.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    February 7, 2013 - For the first time, a majority of the public says that the federal government threatens their personal rights and freedoms, according to a new survey conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press.

    The nationwide telephone survey found that 53 percent of Americans think that the federal government threatens their own personal rights and freedoms while 43 percent disagree. Of those who say government is a threat, 31 percent say it is major threat, while 22 percent say it a minor threat. Fully three-quarters (76 percent) of conservative Republicans said that the government threatens their personal rights, and most (54 percent) said the government poses a major threat, by far the highest percentage of any ideological group identified. Even among moderate and liberal Republicans, 57 percent view the federal government as a threat to personal rights and freedoms and 32 percent said it is a major threat. Among Democrats, 38 percent said the government is a threat, just 16 percent said it as a major threat. According to Pew, the survey also found “continued widespread distrust in government.”

    “Such widespread alarm about federal encroachment indicates there is absolutely a bipartisan, across-the-board concern about the assault on Americans’ personal freedoms, choices and ability to raise families on their own terms,” LeBon said.

    “Whether it is ObamaCare, the Second Amendment or the constant barrage of ‘nanny state’ regulations at all levels of government, Americans are speaking up about feeling threatened by institutional intrusion,” she said.

    “This intrusion is all around,” she added.

    The Pew survey was conducted Jan. 9-13 among a national sample of 1,502 adults, with a confidence factor of 95 percent.....snip~

    Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms | CNS News

    Do you think Obama and the Democrats have something to worry about? The poll show there is a bi-partisianship as it crossing lines. Also Team Obama keeps dropping in the Polls and is continuing to take hits over the Drone Issue and now after the Devastating Admissions by Panetta and Dempsey implicating Clinton and her state Dept for screwing up Benghazi.

    Can Obama make it thru this 2nd term by constantly looking ro go around Congress? Do you think that Obama's spin machine can hide the fact that more and more Americans are becoming disillusioned with all Obama has to say? Seems Obama is now starting to lose that popularity wave he has been riding. How do you think this will affect the political landscape going forward?
    The rest would probably be the food stamp 47. I see some of them have already jumped on the report as "right wing".

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms...

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    That's because the House is composed of single-member districts gerrymandered by state legislatures.

    Lets get rid of that and instead use a party proportional system within the states.

    That way we can get true representation of the population - especially by including multiple parties.
    Yes, just like they do in Europe.

    The US has muddled along for many decades with their system while the Europeans march from one crisis or catastrophe to another.

    Who wants to be like the Greeks or Italians?

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, just like the do in Europe.

    The US has muddles along for many decades with their system while the Europeans march from one crisis or catastrophe to another.

    Who wants to be like the Greeks or Italians?
    Or proportional representation has nothing to do with why Europe is middling along, especially since the US doesn't have it but we were still affected by the global recession.

    Since the global recession went worldwide more because of the globalization of financing.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    February 7, 2013 - For the first time, a majority of the public says that the federal government threatens their personal rights and freedoms, according to a new survey conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press.

    The nationwide telephone survey found that 53 percent of Americans think that the federal government threatens their own personal rights and freedoms while 43 percent disagree. Of those who say government is a threat, 31 percent say it is major threat, while 22 percent say it a minor threat. Fully three-quarters (76 percent) of conservative Republicans said that the government threatens their personal rights, and most (54 percent) said the government poses a major threat, by far the highest percentage of any ideological group identified. Even among moderate and liberal Republicans, 57 percent view the federal government as a threat to personal rights and freedoms and 32 percent said it is a major threat. Among Democrats, 38 percent said the government is a threat, just 16 percent said it as a major threat. According to Pew, the survey also found “continued widespread distrust in government.”

    “Such widespread alarm about federal encroachment indicates there is absolutely a bipartisan, across-the-board concern about the assault on Americans’ personal freedoms, choices and ability to raise families on their own terms,” LeBon said.

    “Whether it is ObamaCare, the Second Amendment or the constant barrage of ‘nanny state’ regulations at all levels of government, Americans are speaking up about feeling threatened by institutional intrusion,” she said.

    “This intrusion is all around,” she added.

    The Pew survey was conducted Jan. 9-13 among a national sample of 1,502 adults, with a confidence factor of 95 percent.....snip~

    Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms | CNS News

    Do you think Obama and the Democrats have something to worry about? The poll show there is a bi-partisianship as it crossing lines. Also Team Obama keeps dropping in the Polls and is continuing to take hits over the Drone Issue and now after the Devastating Admissions by Panetta and Dempsey implicating Clinton and her state Dept for screwing up Benghazi.

    Can Obama make it thru this 2nd term by constantly looking ro go around Congress? Do you think that Obama's spin machine can hide the fact that more and more Americans are becoming disillusioned with all Obama has to say? Seems Obama is now starting to lose that popularity wave he has been riding. How do you think this will affect the political landscape going forward?
    I don't think it's a political problem for Obama and the Democrats - after all, this last election proves the majority of American people are still delusional about Obama.

    You should be concerned, however, since Obama and his Justice Department have taken the position that they can assassinate any American they deem to be a threat to America, in any country, without due process or trial.

    With government drones now being used within the continental US, I'd be concerned with a person such as Obama with little concern for constitutional rights and principles, having his finger on the life/death button.

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms...

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Or proportional representation has nothing to do with why Europe is middling along, especially since the US doesn't have it but we were still affected by the global recession.

    Since the global recession went worldwide more because of the globalization of financing.
    Don't see quite what you're getting at here but you should be able to see how different the history of the US has been when compered with European countries.

    The fact is that the two party system, and frequently third parties as well, has served America well.

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    Re: Pew: 53% of Americans Now Say Government Threatens Their Rights and Freedoms.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Yeah, no one on the right spoke out against these things at the time

    It had nothing to do with a phase of nationalism that accepted the notion of "if you're not with us you're with the terrorists."
    Those on the right that were brave enough to do this, were labled RINOs.

    You care to list these terror attacks that preppers/gun owners concerned about their rights carried out in the US since 9/11?

    Because I am truly ignorant of them.
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