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    Re: Allegations of preschool oral sex shock parents

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, I questioned your claim that sexual arousal is required for it to be considered "sex"
    Is there any doubt that adults who sexually abuse children do so, at least in part, for their own sexual gratification and arousal?

    However, I agree that the legal definition of sex apropos sexual abuse, rape, etc. does not require reference to any sort of arousal but is couched in terms of specific actions, contacts, penetrations, etc. I don't think it's appropriate to apply those definitions to prepubertal children playing with each other, though, or to regard the actions described in the OP as any sort of criminal behavior.

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    Re: Allegations of preschool oral sex shock parents

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Is there any doubt that adults who sexually abuse children do so, at least in part, for their own sexual gratification and arousal?
    Yes. There is no doubt that some parents sexually abuse their children for reasons not involving their own sexual gratification


    However, I agree that the legal definition of sex apropos sexual abuse, rape, etc. does not require reference to any sort of arousal but is couched in terms of specific actions, contacts, penetrations, etc. I don't think it's appropriate to apply those definitions to prepubertal children playing with each other, though, or to regard the actions described in the OP as any sort of criminal behavior.
    I agree that the children did not commit any crime of any sort, never mind a sex crime. I'm glad we could clarify the issue I asked about. The way you said it made me wince.
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    Re: Allegations of preschool oral sex shock parents

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes. There is no doubt that some parents sexually abuse their children for reasons not involving their own sexual gratification
    That's very strange. Do you have a citation or something about that?

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    Re: Allegations of preschool oral sex shock parents

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    That's very strange. Do you have a citation or something about that?
    For example, there are mothers who were abused by males when they were a child who then abuse their male childs genitals because they're the source of evil

    Sometimes the abuse was meant to punish masturbation
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    Re: Allegations of preschool oral sex shock parents

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Well, it all kinda got started with my generation, when a sizeable percentage of youth decided that the rules of life were "If it feels good, do it", and for God's sake, don't hurt little Johnny's psyche by telling him how to act. It's been a downhill slide since then.
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    Re: Allegations of preschool oral sex shock parents

    The only thing that really bothers me about the story is that the kids weren't being supervised well enough.

    Kids are curious about sex and their bodies. I can remember doing similar things when I was 6-8 years old. I don't really think it's that uncommon even.
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    Re: Allegations of preschool oral sex shock parents

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    The only thing that really bothers me about the story is that the kids weren't being supervised well enough.

    Kids are curious about sex and their bodies. I can remember doing similar things when I was 6-8 years old. I don't really think it's that uncommon even.
    There's quite a difference between "you show me yours and I'll show you mine" and performing (or attempting to perform) oral sex.

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    Re: Allegations of preschool oral sex shock parents

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    There's quite a difference between "you show me yours and I'll show you mine" and performing (or attempting to perform) oral sex.
    With me it started as "you show me yours and I'll show you mine" but eventually progressed to touching and other sexual activity.

    Thinking back, I'm not really sure how it came about. I know I hadn't seen porn yet at that age, and I never saw my parents doing it.
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    Re: Allegations of preschool oral sex shock parents

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I recall a case 20, 30 years ago in California where a number of caregivers were charged in a similar case and it turned out to be 100 percent BS. Didn't happen, the kids were coached. Guess we'll have to wait and see how it turns out.
    And those people went through he11 for years.

    Everybody was hrt inthat case, kids and adults, by the authorities.

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