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CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

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The CIA conducts lethal drone attacks against targets in Yemen from a base inside Saudi Arabia, according to theNew York Times newspaper, including the attack that killed American-born Anwar al-Awlaki.
The existence of the base has been reported before, but its exact location has been withheld by various news outlets at the request of the Obama administration.

The base was first used in 2011, the Times reported, to launch the drone strike that killed Awlaki, a key ideologue in Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP).
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Read more @: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes' - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

Apparently we have not removed all bases from Saudi Arabia. Im sure this is gonna make all those holy warriors real happy with infidels on the soil of the "holy kingdom".
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
they're general complaint about infidels polluting the holy land is hardly reasonable in any measure, so who cares? It's not like there is much room to reason with these people
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One of the main reasons how Al Qaeda and other Islamic terrorist groups gain support is through that claim, so it is pretty reasonable on the geopolitical issues.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
One of the main reasons how Al Qaeda and other Islamic terrorist groups gain support is through that claim, so it is pretty reasonable on the geopolitical issues.
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Who cares. If their demands are so moronic, I fully support sticking a patriot missile up their ass

**** them
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
they're general complaint about infidels polluting the holy land is hardly reasonable in any measure, so who cares? It's not like there is much room to reason with these people
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International relations has nothing to do with reason. I may not have any respect for the fools who get worked up over some bases near Mecca, but that doesn't change the reality of the situation. The bases in Saudi Arabia have a political cost greater than their benefit and they should be removed.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
Who cares. If their demands are so moronic, I fully support sticking a patriot missile up their ass

**** them
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Acting like a petulant child has no place in foreign policy.
 
Funny how liberals detest religious Americans but they cozy up to Saudis, Palestinians, Muslim Brotherhood, etc.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
Who cares. If their demands are so moronic, I fully support sticking a patriot missile up their ass

**** them
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So you would support Saudi military bases in our country also (if they wanted them), right?
 
Hard Truth said:
So you would support Saudi military bases in our country also (if they wanted them), right?
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I'm figuring we are there operating with the blessing of their govt
 
rathi said:
Acting like a petulant child has no place in foreign policy.
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As far as shaping how we conduct our foreign policy, the claim that we are polluting the holy land isn't going to sway me much on considering an alternative. If it was some legitimate complaint about how we conduct our foreign policy (which there are many), I would be more sympathetic
 
TheDemSocialist said:
One of the main reasons how Al Qaeda and other Islamic terrorist groups gain support is through that claim, so it is pretty reasonable on the geopolitical issues.
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So we should go ahead and base our foreign policy off what terrorists think we should do? If the Saudi's want us there, Al Qaeda's issue is with them, not us. And these terrorists aren't a bunch of dumbasses. They are intelligent enough to know that. The whole "infidels on holy soil" is just a scapegoat to cover the failings of their own ideology. And caving to terrorism is exactly what gives the movements power. Bin Laden said so after our pull out from Somalia.
 
You can never have a truly trustworthy relationship with devout Muslims. They always carry those sharp knives - they claim it's a religious thing.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
I'm figuring we are there operating with the blessing of their govt
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Saudi Arabian government described by Wikipedia
"The king combines legislative, executive, and judicial functions[60] and royal decrees to form the basis of the country's legislation.[66] The king is also the prime minister, and presides over the Council of Ministers (Majlis al-Wuzarāʾ), which comprises the first and second deputy prime.

The royal family dominates the political system. The family’s vast numbers allow it to control most of the kingdom’s important posts and to have an involvement and presence at all levels of government."

There is no reason to think that the Saudi government reflects the will of the people. If Obama let Saudis build a military base in the USA you can bet conservatives would have a fit and be angry and offended for religious and other reasons.
 
Hard Truth said:
Saudi Arabian government described by Wikipedia
"The king combines legislative, executive, and judicial functions[60] and royal decrees to form the basis of the country's legislation.[66] The king is also the prime minister, and presides over the Council of Ministers (Majlis al-Wuzarāʾ), which comprises the first and second deputy prime.

The royal family dominates the political system. The family’s vast numbers allow it to control most of the kingdom’s important posts and to have an involvement and presence at all levels of government."

There is no reason to think that the Saudi government reflects the will of the people. If Obama let Saudis build a military base in the USA you can bet conservatives would have a fit and be angry and offended for religious and other reasons.
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who said anything about it reflecting the will of the people? They are the govt, we are there under them. Being on "holy land" isn't something I recognize as a legitimate complaint and something that should shape our foreign policy
 
lemmiwinx said:
You can never have a truly trustworthy relationship with devout Muslims. They always carry those sharp knives - they claim it's a religious thing.
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In case you aren't joking, it is Sikhs that carry knives as part of their religion, not Muslims.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
who said anything about it reflecting the will of the people? They are the govt, we are there under them. Being on "holy land" isn't something I recognize as a legitimate complaint and something that should shape our foreign policy
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Not being religious, I think it is silly argument also, but we shouldn't act surprised and assume that our enemies are crazy when we act like arrogant imperialists and put our military bases on their land, with or without the permission of their local CIA supported dictator.
 
lemmiwinx said:
You can never have a truly trustworthy relationship with devout Muslims. They always carry those sharp knives - they claim it's a religious thing.
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This is a a rather sad statement. If for any reason, you're indicting yourself. Devout Muslims, they who are truly devout -- not the caricature the American propaganda machine has drawn, are among the most trustworthy people you'd ever be fortunate enough to meet. Those are Sikh's that carry a blade for religious reasons, not Muslims.
 
lemmiwinx said:
You can never have a truly trustworthy relationship with devout Muslims. They always carry those sharp knives - they claim it's a religious thing.
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Your post is pretty stupid so i'm thinking you have to be joking here. Just in case you're not, it's actually Sikhs who carry ceremonial knives.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
One of the main reasons how Al Qaeda and other Islamic terrorist groups gain support is through that claim, so it is pretty reasonable on the geopolitical issues.
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How do Al Qaeda and other global jihadists have a legitimate say in what goes on in KSA? That's up to the Saudi government, not Al Qaeda. The Saudi government can invite onto their soil whomever they damn well please. It's none of AQ's business.
 
Hard Truth said:
So you would support Saudi military bases in our country also (if they wanted them), right?
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No, our base in KSA is a mutual agreement. If we were offered some benefit to allowing KSA a base on US soil, then - sure, maybe.
 
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