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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    "The government's rationale for asking that the location be withheld was this: Revealing it might jeopardize the existence of the base and harm counterterrorism efforts. "The Saudis might shut it down because the citizenry would be very upset," Baquet said."

    The 'Secret' Saudi Drone Base Revealed By The Times Today Was Actually Reported Months Ago
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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Who cares. If their demands are so moronic, I fully support sticking a patriot missile up their ass

    **** them
    Foreign policy is a delicate manner, indeed. Our forefathers warned about entangling relationships. Regardless, as America grew, so did our interests, and as they grew, they grew outward, outward across the world. Over time, our interests eventually enveloped the span of the globe. Then, we turned to space. So as it stands in the present day, we have assets and infrastructure all-around the world. Naturally so, this is unsettling to some. If you recall in his fatwa, Osama bin Laden asserted that American presence in the most holiest sites for Arabs was a grave offense, one naturally worthy enough to him for him to attack our interests, infrastructure, and people several times, most notably, 9/11. So when you say, "Who cares," I think just about every American does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Foreign policy is a delicate manner, indeed. Our forefathers warned about entangling relationships. Regardless, as America grew, so did our interests, and as they grew, they grew outward, outward across the world. Over time, our interests eventually enveloped the span of the globe. Then, we turned to space. So as it stands in the present day, we have assets and infrastructure all-around the world. Naturally so, this is unsettling to some. If you recall in his fatwa, Osama bin Laden asserted that American presence in the most holiest sites for Arabs was a grave offense, one naturally worthy enough to him for him to attack our interests, infrastructure, and people several times, most notably, 9/11. So when you say, "Who cares," I think just about every American does.
    Lol, again, why should the views and interest of aq be used to shape our foreign policy, and why on earth do you people feel it would lead to moderation from that group?

    Again, **** them.

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    There is no difference between a U.S. base and a Saudi based used to launch U.S. aircraft from a political perspective. The only thing even more meaningless than arguing about fairness in foreign policy is pedantic hairsplitting.
    Rathi, you seem to be taking this tact that we should be listening to aq here, but have offered little reason why. Are you under the impression that abandoning such programs will lead to the moderation of AQ, or that such will lead the Us to be seen as less antagonistic by them?

    To me, bowing to their demands here seems to come with absolutely no benefits.

    Yes, there is plenty of reasons to criticize how we conduct foreign policy, but this doesn't seem like one if them

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
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    Perhaps you should change that, because I take it this "**** them" attitude applies to everyone. Neoconservatives are bad with foreign policy.

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Lol, again, why should the views and interest of aq be used to shape our foreign policy, and why on earth do you people feel it would lead to moderation from that group?

    Again, **** them.
    The presence of American bases on Saudi soil improves the ability to recruit warm bodies and drum up funding. AQ has clearly demonstrated that with proper resources, they present a lethal threat to American citizens. Ergo, keeping bases in Saudi Arabia is cost paid in blood. It makes no sense whatsoever to gamble with American lives when drone strikes can easily be launched from a carrier.

    Saying "**** them" is a whiny emotional response that does nothing to address the reality of the situation we face.

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    I believe America does a lot of very good and important things in this world and we'd be a worse place without her, however, there are times non-Americans wonder what the hell you're thinking or how tone deaf can you be. This is like poking a stick in a bear's eye - just not smart.

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I believe America does a lot of very good and important things in this world and we'd be a worse place without her, however, there are times non-Americans wonder what the hell you're thinking or how tone deaf can you be. This is like poking a stick in a bear's eye - just not smart.
    I agree John, I think the worst thing about America is where ever she goes she tries to force her type of government, moralistic point of view, even to change the culture and traditions of the nation or countries we are trying to help. I have seen that way too many times.

    Working with soldiers of different nations during my time on active duty, most Americans tend also to exhibit a superior attitude toward the ones we are training or advising which also goes to the relationship between America and the host country.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I agree John, I think the worst thing about America is where ever she goes she tries to force her type of government, moralistic point of view, even to change the culture and traditions of the nation or countries we are trying to help. I have seen that way too many times.

    Working with soldiers of different nations during my time on active duty, most Americans tend also to exhibit a superior attitude toward the ones we are training or advising which also goes to the relationship between America and the host country.
    Hi Pero - hope all is well with you - Americans are the best soldiers in the world, bar none, and a little bit of arrogance is probably a good quality in combat, but you're right when you say that sometimes too blatant a superior attitude can breed negativity and resentment, especially when you're a visitor in someone else's homeland.

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Perhaps you should change that, because I take it this "**** them" attitude applies to everyone. Neoconservatives are bad with foreign policy.
    perhaps you should answer the rather obvious questions I asked above, as opposed to trying to make things personal.

    PS Why on earth would you try to equivocate between AQ and the various other groups we interact with on foreign policy?

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