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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Acting like a petulant child has no place in foreign policy.
    As far as shaping how we conduct our foreign policy, the claim that we are polluting the holy land isn't going to sway me much on considering an alternative. If it was some legitimate complaint about how we conduct our foreign policy (which there are many), I would be more sympathetic

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    One of the main reasons how Al Qaeda and other Islamic terrorist groups gain support is through that claim, so it is pretty reasonable on the geopolitical issues.
    So we should go ahead and base our foreign policy off what terrorists think we should do? If the Saudi's want us there, Al Qaeda's issue is with them, not us. And these terrorists aren't a bunch of dumbasses. They are intelligent enough to know that. The whole "infidels on holy soil" is just a scapegoat to cover the failings of their own ideology. And caving to terrorism is exactly what gives the movements power. Bin Laden said so after our pull out from Somalia.
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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    You can never have a truly trustworthy relationship with devout Muslims. They always carry those sharp knives - they claim it's a religious thing.

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I'm figuring we are there operating with the blessing of their govt
    Saudi Arabian government described by Wikipedia
    "The king combines legislative, executive, and judicial functions[60] and royal decrees to form the basis of the country's legislation.[66] The king is also the prime minister, and presides over the Council of Ministers (Majlis al-Wuzarāʾ), which comprises the first and second deputy prime.

    The royal family dominates the political system. The family’s vast numbers allow it to control most of the kingdom’s important posts and to have an involvement and presence at all levels of government."

    There is no reason to think that the Saudi government reflects the will of the people. If Obama let Saudis build a military base in the USA you can bet conservatives would have a fit and be angry and offended for religious and other reasons.

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Saudi Arabian government described by Wikipedia
    "The king combines legislative, executive, and judicial functions[60] and royal decrees to form the basis of the country's legislation.[66] The king is also the prime minister, and presides over the Council of Ministers (Majlis al-Wuzarāʾ), which comprises the first and second deputy prime.

    The royal family dominates the political system. The family’s vast numbers allow it to control most of the kingdom’s important posts and to have an involvement and presence at all levels of government."

    There is no reason to think that the Saudi government reflects the will of the people. If Obama let Saudis build a military base in the USA you can bet conservatives would have a fit and be angry and offended for religious and other reasons.
    who said anything about it reflecting the will of the people? They are the govt, we are there under them. Being on "holy land" isn't something I recognize as a legitimate complaint and something that should shape our foreign policy

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by lemmiwinx View Post
    You can never have a truly trustworthy relationship with devout Muslims. They always carry those sharp knives - they claim it's a religious thing.
    In case you aren't joking, it is Sikhs that carry knives as part of their religion, not Muslims.

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by lemmiwinx View Post
    They always carry those sharp knives - they claim it's a religious thing.
    I think you are confusing Muslims and Sikhs

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    who said anything about it reflecting the will of the people? They are the govt, we are there under them. Being on "holy land" isn't something I recognize as a legitimate complaint and something that should shape our foreign policy
    Not being religious, I think it is silly argument also, but we shouldn't act surprised and assume that our enemies are crazy when we act like arrogant imperialists and put our military bases on their land, with or without the permission of their local CIA supported dictator.

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by lemmiwinx View Post
    You can never have a truly trustworthy relationship with devout Muslims. They always carry those sharp knives - they claim it's a religious thing.
    This is a a rather sad statement. If for any reason, you're indicting yourself. Devout Muslims, they who are truly devout -- not the caricature the American propaganda machine has drawn, are among the most trustworthy people you'd ever be fortunate enough to meet. Those are Sikh's that carry a blade for religious reasons, not Muslims.

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    Re: CIA 'using Saudi base for drone strikes'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I'm figuring we are there operating with the blessing of their govt
    and may Allah forgive them for their capitulation...

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