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    Re: Calif. Dems push liability insurance for gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    It will be interesting to see how this plays out
    It will play out like all of California's nonsensical regulations and rules.

    It will marginalize that plague state even more as criminals gun up and ignore the law and anyone with any common sense moves to greener pastures.

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    Re: Calif. Dems push liability insurance for gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    There is a direct Constitutional right to bear arms, there is not a Constitutional right to drive a car. Mandating that someone buy insurance and keep it current to own their gun is just indirect infringement upon 2nd Amendment rights.

    I also laughed when I read this part.



    Gun owners do not cause harm, this is essentially trying to ignorantly blanket gun owners as criminals and the ones responsible for "causing harm". If someone illegally uses their gun to hurt someone or kill someone else they will be tried in court, found guilty, and forced to pay the costs via legal action. That's how it should be.
    Agreed, except it is not indirect infringement, it is direct, blatant infringement.

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    Re: Calif. Dems push liability insurance for gun owners

    It's the equivilent of a Poll Tax.

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    Re: Calif. Dems push liability insurance for gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    It will be interesting to see how this plays out
    How are they going to get the street gangs to comply?

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    Re: Calif. Dems push liability insurance for gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    How are they going to get the street gangs to comply?
    Give them a free phone.

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    Re: Calif. Dems push liability insurance for gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Give them a free phone.
    We don't need more strict gun laws. What we need is more strict law enforcement. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Well, its time to start limiting the supply of killers.

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    Re: Calif. Dems push liability insurance for gun owners

    Thats a bull**** false comparison, you do not need insurance or a license to drive a car on private property. At best they can make the case for CCW permit holders, but even that is fail.

    I really despise California and their looter government.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Calif. Dems push liability insurance for gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Thats a bull**** false comparison, you do not need insurance or a license to drive a car on private property. At best they can make the case for CCW permit holders, but even that is fail.

    I really despise California and their looter government.
    I think a better argument is: Owning and driving a car is not a Constitutional right, so there is no infringement there. Owning weapons is a Constitutional right, and it shall not be infringed upon, and requiring a special 'gun owner's insurance' is blatant infringement on that right.

    It's like the people who complained that requiring a photo ID to vote is infringement on the right to vote. So, states who enacted that law give free photo IDs to people if they want/need one to show at the polls. In order for this California stunt to not infringe on the 2nd amendment, they'd have to offer this insurance to gun owners for free.

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    Re: Calif. Dems push liability insurance for gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I think a better argument is: Owning and driving a car is not a Constitutional right, so there is no infringement there. Owning weapons is a Constitutional right, and it shall not be infringed upon, and requiring a special 'gun owner's insurance' is blatant infringement on that right.

    It's like the people who complained that requiring a photo ID to vote is infringement on the right to vote. So, states who enacted that law give free photo IDs to people if they want/need one to show at the polls. In order for this California stunt to not infringe on the 2nd amendment, they'd have to offer this insurance to gun owners for free.
    Or the fact that we already have insurance for harm to our health. This is a transition for self-responsibility to whoever is responsible for my harm must pay. As if lawsuit for damages and medical, and punitive weren't already law.

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    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Calif. Dems push liability insurance for gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Off Topic: About the User Name, fan of Joe Jackson?
    Ha! No, not particularly. He's not bad, but my username was chosen because it's really simple and easy to remember, and I am in fact, the man.

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