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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    It is called paternity fraud and he should be eligible to get back all of the money he spent raising the children he believed to be his own. This court was 180 degrees from reality.
    No. It may be called paternity fraud, but it's not recognized in a court of law as a way for a supposed dad to recover support he's paid. He will never get back the money he spent raising the children he believed his own. Not in one million years.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    I'm sorry, but I don't believe you for a second. Unless your relationship with your father is terrible or you're some kind of sentient lizardpeople, being rejected by your father like that would be a crushing blow.
    Well my relationship with my father is terrible, but that has nothing to do with my statement. I just wouldn't assume it meant anything more than what he is telling me. Perhaps I'm wrong and I would, but I doubt it.

    For medical purposes, sure. They already know who their father is.
    No, because they should know who their biological father is. They should know who that person in front of them actually is to them and who they are not. If they are not the biological father the kid should know it and not be lead to believe otherwise.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

    I have absolutely no sympathy for this man. Married for sixteen years, raising four children for over a decade-- and he demands a paternity test when he gets a divorce? I think about the message that sends his children and all I can think is "**** this guy". And I reject the notion that, again, after a decade of raising three children that he is anything but their real father.
    I'm going to be paying child support on kids that aren't biologically mine. Because I am their dad, end of story.

    He raised them, he is actually their dad, he should pay child support.


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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I'm sorry Viktyr, but in every other sense, even legally for everything else, they are NOT his children. He's no longer married to their mother, they are not in his custody and he is not their biological/legal father. The name means nothing and the soul? Since when is the soul recognised by Canadian law?

    Had they not been married but he had lived with the gal all these years and then decided to split would he have to pay child support then? Legally.

    The ruling was wrong and lazy.
    Bull****...ask them that - those three girls.

    I love my father more than anything and if I found out he wasn't my biological father I wouldn't really give a **** - it would alter my relationshp - but it would NOT remove the fact that he IS my father.

    My boys know that their dad isn't their biological father and they don't give a rats ass - he's their father and was before he adopted them.

    Those children carry his mannerisms, probably say the same jokes he does, and have nothing but a lifetime of memories of him being their father - DIVORCE DOESN'T END THAT and neither does the fact that they were biologically fathered during an affair.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I'm sorry Viktyr, but in every other sense, even legally for everything else, they are NOT his children. He's no longer married to their mother, they are not in his custody and he is not their biological/legal father. The name means nothing and the soul? Since when is the soul recognised by Canadian law?
    He still has his full parental rights, including visitation and the right to petition the courts for custody.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Had they not been married but he had lived with the gal all these years and then decided to split would he have to pay child support then? Legally.
    Probably, yes. His name would still have been on the birth certificate for all of those years.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    It is called paternity fraud and he should be eligible to get back all of the money he spent raising the children he believed to be his own. This court was 180 degrees from reality.
    So your definition of a "father" is sperm?


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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    There is so little information in the article that it's difficult to interpret what is actually happening.

    Usually men object to child support in the United States when the support payments are set so high that it seems the court is punishing him for being a father or the court is helping the ex-wife extract revenge on the men she hates so much. It is doubly painful for a man when he arrives in court thinking that he might be equally considered for custody and finds that he doesn't even receive a reasonable visitation award, resulting in the next eighteen years of his life being spent living in a studio apartment in order to support a cheating ex-wife that treated him like a piece of crap while he tried his best to hold the marriage together for the sake of the children. Further pain awaits while she turns the kids against him and denies his court ordered visitation. The American courts will not enforce a father's ordered visitation rights, nor punish the ex-wife for refusing to allow him to see his own children, consequently, the children become her weapon. The father does get punished severely if he doesn't write that support check, however.

    Most American men walk, decent husbands and fathers, walk out of divorce court devastated by how they were treated by the court. That glass ceiling that women are always complaining about is nothing like the brick wall a man encounters when he tries to get custody of his own children.

    The point is that more facts are needed in this case prior to damning the poor bstrd who put up with a cheating whore for all those years.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why do people assume that because he didn't want to pay child support for kids that are not his own that he doesn't love the kids? How is the one automatically the other? It seems to me all he is doing is saying those kids are not my kids and I do not want to financially support them. Perhaps its not the nicest thing to convey, but it doesn't mean he doesn't love them.
    To be fair, it doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't want to financially support them either - it just means he doesn't want a court to mandate it - and if it's mandated by the court, the mother receives the child support payments and has control over how that's spent. If there's no court order, the deceived "father" might give his former children everything they need, directly, rather than through the mother.

    Even though it's not spousal support, there is no question that a portion of child support inevitably provides benefit to the former spouse and not the children.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post

    My boys know that their dad isn't their biological father and they don't give a rats ass - he's their father and was before he adopted them.
    My kids know that I am not their biological dad. They remember their biological dad, they know his name is Yevgeni Larchenko. Doesn't matter. I'm their dad.

    They know that my now-ex-wife is not their biological mom. They remember her a little bit (not as much), and they know that her name is Mariya Simkova. She's their mom.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'm going to be paying child support on kids that aren't biologically mine. Because I am their dad, end of story.

    He raised them, he is actually their dad, he should pay child support.
    And that is good on you, let me say, so would I. BUT that's not the standard, nor should it be. Otherwise there would be a whole lot of ex-boyfriends of single mothers paying child support for children that aren't theirs.

    But that he contested child support and doesn't have custody now tells us he's probably already cut emotional bait. This is purely about financial support, the emotional support is already gone.

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