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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

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    If the baby doesn't look at all like all the other babies in your family in some way or the other, get the DNA test before you ever acknowledge the child as yours......
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    If he still had custody of the kids, then I'd say the court was correct, but then he wouldn't need to be paying child support in the first place. The court should have gone after the biological father(s) of these children. And before we go all weepy, children are affected in all sorts of ways by a divorce. They often "lose" mother or father effectively.

    I lean more toward Viktyr's view of family, but I know not everyone else does, nor do I think it should be enshrined in law. Once he's divorced, the kids not living with him, and he finds out the kids aren't his, there's no way taking child support from him is the right thing to do. The court should be goijng after the bio father(s). If he's the sort that believes as Viktyr does, then he is free to continue his love and financial support on top of what the bio fathers pay.

    This is simply the court being lazy by default.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    A rather backward ruling that opens up forcing child support on anyone remotely involved in the raising of any child. Thankfully its Canada.

    From the emotional side of it, I get where you are coming from Viktyr, but legally he isn't monetarily responsible for their upbringing.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    To be fair, the man was a father to those children due to extreme coercion and fraud on behalf of the bio-mom. To dismiss the natural biological rights of the bio-dads based upon the mother's deception and lies is also a serious issue here. I completely reject the idea that the biological father of any child is without rights to those children on the basis of the bio-mother's whims.

    That said, the acting father's rights were never fully exercised at an appropriate time because of the fraud perpetrated against him. As much as the bio-fathers' rights were infringed, so were those of the acting father. The only person in the initial scenario guilty of any offense is the whoreish bio-mom.

    In terms of the present issue: If you were led to believe that a child was yours and found out years later than it wasn't, would you not have a lot of initial anger and hurt? And as a human, would you not be likely to say and do things immediately upon discovering that truth that might be hurtful or counterproductive? Likewise, if you're the bio-dad of one of these children and you don't find out until years later, would you not be likely to feel as if something were taken or withheld from you?

    I don't really wanna burn the guy down. He's dealing with a lot of hurt right now. I think he'll eventually realize what's best for the children and rediscover the love he has for them. But the woman? **** her. She deserves to pay for what she did.
    It is called paternity fraud and he should be eligible to get back all of the money he spent raising the children he believed to be his own. This court was 180 degrees from reality.
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    You gonna tell me that if your father looked you in the eye and said "You are not my son" that you wouldn't be ****ing heartbroken?
    No, I wouldn't. I would however be interested to know who is.

    You seriously going to tell me that a man who loves his children could do that to them?
    Yes, actually. If he is not the father of the kids that is information they should know.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I lean more toward Viktyr's view of family, but I know not everyone else does, nor do I think it should be enshrined in law. Once he's divorced, the kids not living with him, and he finds out the kids aren't his, there's no way taking child support from him is the right thing to do. The court should be goijng after the bio father(s). If he's the sort that believes as Viktyr does, then he is free to continue his love and financial support on top of what the bio fathers pay.
    See, and the argument over the biodads aside, I just can't accept-- morally or legally-- that a father should be allowed to walk away from his obligations to his children. It's not like they're newborn infants, ready for adoption; these are his children, name and soul.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    A rather backward ruling that opens up forcing child support on anyone remotely involved in the raising of any child. Thankfully its Canada.

    From the emotional side of it, I get where you are coming from Viktyr, but legally he isn't monetarily responsible for their upbringing.
    LOL - it's not like he was her sidelined boyfriend.

    He was IS their father - from the moment they were born . . . he was there when they were born - wiped their butts and spoonfed them babycrap from a jar. Took them to school and had parent teacher conferences. Took care of them when they were sick. He RAISED them with her. **** biology. The mother was wrong to cheat but she chose not to involve those other men - that was her right . . . if they want to challenge that it'll be a whole nother court case.

    These children - teenagers (ages 12, 14, and 16) are not invalids to be shoveled as a gross burden to some random men who they didn't know - and should never know, honestly, unless they WANT to.

    He is and will likely be the only father in their lives - ask them if DNA really mattes . . . I bet you they'd say no. For 12, 14 and 16 years he's all they've ever known.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    A rather backward ruling that opens up forcing child support on anyone remotely involved in the raising of any child. Thankfully its Canada.

    From the emotional side of it, I get where you are coming from Viktyr, but legally he isn't monetarily responsible for their upbringing.
    Are you kidding me? He is listed as their father on their birth certificates, he is the only father that these kids have ever known and he has supported them since birth. Daddy, legal guardian and supporting parent are not determined by DNA alone. Just what, in the judge's ruling, did you not understand as being legally binding?
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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    A rather backward ruling that opens up forcing child support on anyone remotely involved in the raising of any child. Thankfully its Canada.

    From the emotional side of it, I get where you are coming from Viktyr, but legally he isn't monetarily responsible for their upbringing.
    Legally, he is and he would be in the majority of the United States as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    It is called paternity fraud and he should be eligible to get back all of the money he spent raising the children he believed to be his own. This court was 180 degrees from reality.
    Paternity fraud is not legally recognized as a crime and I doubt it's recognized as the basis for a civil suit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, I wouldn't. I would however be interested to know who is.
    I'm sorry, but I don't believe you for a second. Unless your relationship with your father is terrible or you're some kind of sentient lizardpeople, being rejected by your father like that would be a crushing blow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, actually. If he is not the father of the kids that is information they should know.
    For medical purposes, sure. They already know who their father is.

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    Re: Dad must pay child support for 3 kids that aren't his: Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    See, and the argument over the biodads aside, I just can't accept-- morally or legally-- that a father should be allowed to walk away from his obligations to his children. It's not like they're newborn infants, ready for adoption; these are his children, name and soul.
    I'm sorry Viktyr, but in every other sense, even legally for everything else, they are NOT his children. He's no longer married to their mother, they are not in his custody and he is not their biological/legal father. The name means nothing and the soul? Since when is the soul recognised by Canadian law?

    Had they not been married but he had lived with the gal all these years and then decided to split would he have to pay child support then? Legally.

    The ruling was wrong and lazy.

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